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malaise

(269,087 posts)
Sun Dec 29, 2019, 03:02 PM Dec 2019

Breaking:_Multiple people shot at a church near Fort Worth Texas

Ah well - another day - another mass shooting.
2 dead, 1 in critical condition after shooting at White Settlement church, officials say
https://www.dallasnews.com/news/crime/2019/12/29/2-dead-1-in-critical-condition-after-reported-shooting-at-church-in-white-settlement/
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Two people are dead and another is in critical condition after a shooting at a church in White Settlement, officials said.

Multiple agencies are responding to 1900 South Las Vegas Trail in White Settlement, where the West Freeway Church of Christ is located.

MedStar spokeswoman Macara Trusty confirmed that one person died at the scene of the shooting, one person died en route to a hospital, and another person was transported to a hospital in critical condition.

The shooter is believed to be one of those three people, said Fort Worth Fire Department spokesman Mike Drivdahl. Fort Worth police and fire were at the scene assisting White Settlement agencies, he said. Agents with the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms were also at the scene.

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Breaking:_Multiple people shot at a church near Fort Worth Texas (Original Post) malaise Dec 2019 OP
Shooting, stabbing are all part of our new American culture. MoonRiver Dec 2019 #1
America is a failed state. Yeehah Dec 2019 #52
In case you were wondering about the name..... jberryhill Dec 2019 #2
I remember when I first moved to the DFW are and I saw the name of that city Sapient Donkey Dec 2019 #10
There have been votes to change the name but none passed. onetexan Dec 2019 #40
Thanks n/t malaise Dec 2019 #22
Ain't America just great, best place in the entire world! RKP5637 Dec 2019 #3
A live stream of the church service captured the shooting dalton99a Dec 2019 #4
Holy Shit malaise Dec 2019 #11
I the man with a gun in the upper left MontanaMama Dec 2019 #28
He has been reported as both a "parishioner" and as security FBaggins Dec 2019 #43
He's brave. MontanaMama Dec 2019 #46
Pure evil, on a Sunday appalachiablue Dec 2019 #45
at this point we need a news channel just for these IcyPeas Dec 2019 #5
There is already KGUN lapfog_1 Dec 2019 #53
oh, I had no idea. IcyPeas Dec 2019 #55
CNN chyron referred to the shootings as an "American cancer'' - seems like there would empedocles Dec 2019 #6
More people who can't get thru New years in one piece. Mystery sage Dec 2019 #7
Really? Or maybe the dude was just a sociopath obamanut2012 Dec 2019 #48
this is the second church shooting in Fort Worth yellowdogintexas Dec 2019 #8
Seriously this is madness malaise Dec 2019 #13
Thing I hate most is the fact NRA folks.. busterbrown Dec 2019 #44
A couple of armed churchgoers were able to stop the gunman madville Dec 2019 #9
Could you please correct the spelling to Fort Worth MagickMuffin Dec 2019 #12
I do it too. Whenever I'll correct someone's spelling, in the process it will contain a typo. 🙂 TheBlackAdder Dec 2019 #15
Yeah, typing on my cell phone and poor eyesight MagickMuffin Dec 2019 #20
Coming to the end of year, when some people just lose their shit. TheBlackAdder Dec 2019 #14
I've always heard that if you do something a certain number of times repeatedly, Ferrets are Cool Dec 2019 #16
In the United States we call that Sunday. Vinca Dec 2019 #17
Word. BamaRefugee Dec 2019 #21
Yup. Blue_playwright Dec 2019 #24
Sadly in isn't just on Sunday Kaiserguy Dec 2019 #27
"In the United States we call that Sunday" - Corrected to "we call that freedom" erronis Dec 2019 #35
That is so sad. I was going to suggest that doors be locked during services, bc members are sitting RestoreAmerica2020 Dec 2019 #18
No one is safe from the NRA malaise Dec 2019 #23
or save from the NRA's masters - the forces that want to drive us apart. erronis Dec 2019 #36
Well we only need thoughts for this shooting because the Church already had the prayers part covered Botany Dec 2019 #19
Oh, yawn. Only two dead? PoindexterOglethorpe Dec 2019 #25
Good points. Crappy marksman, and Nealy Cox's asinine statement. Where is it OK to be subjected erronis Dec 2019 #39
I think we're going to start seeing more people refraining from gathering in public, tblue37 Dec 2019 #26
We are already there essme Dec 2019 #30
I saw the video Blueplanet Dec 2019 #29
Very sad. Stuart G Dec 2019 #31
No doubt ammosexuals will tout it as a victory Dukkha Dec 2019 #32
It's reasonable to say that it would have been much worse FBaggins Dec 2019 #42
Law don't go around here ... Mme. Defarge Dec 2019 #33
The last time I went to a movie, I found myself wondering where the nearest exit was, in case of.... northoftheborder Dec 2019 #34
You're not alone. I do it all the time. underpants Dec 2019 #41
Yep malaise Dec 2019 #51
You should do that anyways in case of fire. Kaleva Dec 2019 #56
Sad Sherman A1 Dec 2019 #37
What a drag Ahpook Dec 2019 #38
From the dallasnews.com article Sonny Mirviss Dec 2019 #47
Check the video at #45 n/t malaise Dec 2019 #50
My prediction: this was a ammosexual church and the shooter was a member with a vendetta intheflow Dec 2019 #49
ABC just showed Skidmore Dec 2019 #54
None. hardluck Dec 2019 #57
The church-goer was a volunteer security person. He only hit the gunman. cwydro Dec 2019 #60
Just another day in the good ol' USA. Initech Dec 2019 #58
Sickening! My friend in Lincoln, Nebraska, said frogmarch Dec 2019 #59
 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
2. In case you were wondering about the name.....
Sun Dec 29, 2019, 03:11 PM
Dec 2019

From Wikipedia...

The name of "White Settlement" was originally bestowed upon the community by several Indian tribes in the area. The city got its name because it was the lone village of white pioneers amid several American Indian encampments in the Fort Worth area in the Texas Republic territory in the 1840s.

On October 14, 2005, city leaders citing hurdle in attracting businesses announced a plan to have local voters decide on a possible name change for the town from White Settlement to West Settlement. In the November 8 election, the name change was overwhelmingly rejected by a vote of 2,388 to 219.

Sapient Donkey

(1,568 posts)
10. I remember when I first moved to the DFW are and I saw the name of that city
Sun Dec 29, 2019, 03:28 PM
Dec 2019

I had to stop to take some pictures of the signage.

MontanaMama

(23,324 posts)
28. I the man with a gun in the upper left
Sun Dec 29, 2019, 04:48 PM
Dec 2019

of this photo one of two shooters or is he a security guard with a weapon pointed toward the shooter circled in red?

IcyPeas

(21,894 posts)
5. at this point we need a news channel just for these
Sun Dec 29, 2019, 03:14 PM
Dec 2019
Get Your Latest on Mass Shootings here on WGUN. 24/7.... and now the weather report... brought to you by the NRA.

empedocles

(15,751 posts)
6. CNN chyron referred to the shootings as an "American cancer'' - seems like there would
Sun Dec 29, 2019, 03:23 PM
Dec 2019

be enough documentation out there to label it as a 'MAGAt cancer'

yellowdogintexas

(22,267 posts)
8. this is the second church shooting in Fort Worth
Sun Dec 29, 2019, 03:25 PM
Dec 2019

The first one was not far from my house, during a youth concert in 1999. Seven killed and seven injured. This was 5 months after Columbine. It was only the beginning...

busterbrown

(8,515 posts)
44. Thing I hate most is the fact NRA folks..
Sun Dec 29, 2019, 06:04 PM
Dec 2019

will consider this a win for them.. A win that took lives.. " So many more could have died" Just wait

madville

(7,412 posts)
9. A couple of armed churchgoers were able to stop the gunman
Sun Dec 29, 2019, 03:28 PM
Dec 2019

It could have been a lot worse but the shooter was stopped quickly at least. Will be interesting to see if someone specific was targeted, if the gunman was a member of the church, etc.

MagickMuffin

(15,944 posts)
12. Could you please correct the spelling to Fort Worth
Sun Dec 29, 2019, 03:32 PM
Dec 2019

Last edited Sun Dec 29, 2019, 04:29 PM - Edit history (1)

Thx

I live in here so pet peeve.

I was in transit to Mineral Wells, when a police SUV passed me going over 100 mph. He was probably on his way to the shooting.

Sad state of affairs

TheBlackAdder

(28,209 posts)
15. I do it too. Whenever I'll correct someone's spelling, in the process it will contain a typo. 🙂
Sun Dec 29, 2019, 03:39 PM
Dec 2019

.

Cod you please correct the spelling to Fort Worth

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MagickMuffin

(15,944 posts)
20. Yeah, typing on my cell phone and poor eyesight
Sun Dec 29, 2019, 04:28 PM
Dec 2019

I just noticed my typo, but I'll correct it now that I've had a chance to see it.


Ferrets are Cool

(21,108 posts)
16. I've always heard that if you do something a certain number of times repeatedly,
Sun Dec 29, 2019, 03:55 PM
Dec 2019

it becomes a habit. I think mass shootings are our "new" habit.

Kaiserguy

(740 posts)
27. Sadly in isn't just on Sunday
Sun Dec 29, 2019, 04:47 PM
Dec 2019

our mass shooting are 7 days a week 365 days of the year. So far this year we have had more mass shooting than we have had days in the year. Yet thanks to the NRA/Trump/Putin/GOP nothing will be done to even try and stop it.

erronis

(15,306 posts)
35. "In the United States we call that Sunday" - Corrected to "we call that freedom"
Sun Dec 29, 2019, 05:04 PM
Dec 2019

Freedom to kill anybody we feel like. Freedom to bear arms including assault weapons.

Freedom to show our disrespect for humanity and all living things. Freedom to be evil.

Not free, not good, just evil.

RestoreAmerica2020

(3,435 posts)
18. That is so sad. I was going to suggest that doors be locked during services, bc members are sitting
Sun Dec 29, 2019, 04:15 PM
Dec 2019

..yet recalled Dylan Roof went in and prayed with them then killed 9 people, dont recall how many were injured. So if someone is intent on harming others will do just that. Is there a safe place anywhere in America?

My biggest concern is the safety of our children--are they safe, protected out of harms way? Schools places of worship, shopping centers, movie theaters? How do we protect our citizens? How can we be proactive in identifying people who wish to do us harm when tbey live among us?

erronis

(15,306 posts)
36. or save from the NRA's masters - the forces that want to drive us apart.
Sun Dec 29, 2019, 05:07 PM
Dec 2019

Including the nimwit that the Kochs/Mercers/FedSoc/russian oligarchs installed in the WH.

God, if you exist, please strike these evil forces from our planet.

Botany

(70,524 posts)
19. Well we only need thoughts for this shooting because the Church already had the prayers part covered
Sun Dec 29, 2019, 04:18 PM
Dec 2019

How long will we let this crap keep going on and on?

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,865 posts)
25. Oh, yawn. Only two dead?
Sun Dec 29, 2019, 04:43 PM
Dec 2019

Clearly the shooter is an amateur. I mean, if you can't take out at least ten, why bother?



However, no sarcasm that if guns weren't so available that these things wouldn't happen. But of course, someone else's right to murder people is far more important than anyone's right to stay alive.

Added:

“No one should be subjected to gunfire in a house of worship,” Nealy Cox said in a tweeted statement.
Cox is U.S. Attorney for the Northern District of Texas. I really, really want to ask him where is it okay to be subjected to gunfire? At home? At a school? At a shopping mall? Why is a church special?

erronis

(15,306 posts)
39. Good points. Crappy marksman, and Nealy Cox's asinine statement. Where is it OK to be subjected
Sun Dec 29, 2019, 05:10 PM
Dec 2019

to gunfire?

What makes the USofA such a hell-hole? Vestiges of misfits coming over from Europe in the 1800's?

tblue37

(65,442 posts)
26. I think we're going to start seeing more people refraining from gathering in public,
Sun Dec 29, 2019, 04:47 PM
Dec 2019

which would be a sad thing for community and public spirit.

essme

(1,207 posts)
30. We are already there
Sun Dec 29, 2019, 04:52 PM
Dec 2019

I wrote on DU a while back that we would not be going to the state fair this year because of shooters. People here mocked me: "we aren't going to quit LIVING!"

Yeah. Let's have a few more, and then see how many folks just stay home.

Blueplanet

(253 posts)
29. I saw the video
Sun Dec 29, 2019, 04:49 PM
Dec 2019

It gave me chills. The gunman shot a person at such close range - I do not know if anyone could have survived it.

Dukkha

(7,341 posts)
32. No doubt ammosexuals will tout it as a victory
Sun Dec 29, 2019, 04:53 PM
Dec 2019

for the "Good Guy With a Gun" and the "armed society is a polite society" mentality.
Ignoring of course the fact that there are still two dead people and multiple injuries.

FBaggins

(26,749 posts)
42. It's reasonable to say that it would have been much worse
Sun Dec 29, 2019, 06:00 PM
Dec 2019

If the church merely had "gun-free zone" signs at the entrances.

I can't say that I'm upset that the gunman was taken out before some church members even ducked in their pews.

northoftheborder

(7,572 posts)
34. The last time I went to a movie, I found myself wondering where the nearest exit was, in case of....
Sun Dec 29, 2019, 05:04 PM
Dec 2019

the unthinkable happening. Gave me a chill to realize I even thought of that....

underpants

(182,843 posts)
41. You're not alone. I do it all the time.
Sun Dec 29, 2019, 05:51 PM
Dec 2019

Odd I just realized that when I pop not the grocery store I don't even think about it.

Ahpook

(2,750 posts)
38. What a drag
Sun Dec 29, 2019, 05:10 PM
Dec 2019

Watched a quick video on Youtube about this. The host said that white conservatives are being targeted in places of worship around the country blah, blah.

I remain speechless when they say shit like that. I know who they are talking to when they say these things. It still amazes me anyone eats it up and takes it as fact.

 

Sonny Mirviss

(77 posts)
47. From the dallasnews.com article
Sun Dec 29, 2019, 06:33 PM
Dec 2019
Meanwhile, at least five other worshippers pull out handguns and slowly approach the shooter. The man who shot the gunman kicks away the gunman’s firearm and picks it up.


Good grief, at least 5 others?

It could have turned into a slaughter house!

https://www.dallasnews.com/news/crime/2019/12/29/2-dead-1-in-critical-condition-after-reported-shooting-at-church-in-white-settlement/

intheflow

(28,481 posts)
49. My prediction: this was a ammosexual church and the shooter was a member with a vendetta
Sun Dec 29, 2019, 06:43 PM
Dec 2019

against another member. Just assuming this because a) it's a white church; b) members are armed in the pews; c) The shooter had an argument with someone before he started shooting. Maybe he's just related to someone in the church community. But I'm guessing since this doesn't seem to be racially or ethnically motivated, and they didn't mention the race of the shooter, it wasn't a random attack on Christianity, it was a personal, targeted shooting.

Skidmore

(37,364 posts)
54. ABC just showed
Sun Dec 29, 2019, 07:08 PM
Dec 2019

a video of the man pulling a gun out of his coat and a guy on the other end of the pew going for his own. They the reported that several other church goers pulled guns and shot. The shooter is dead. Wonder how many of the others were hit by their fellow congregants.

hardluck

(639 posts)
57. None.
Sun Dec 29, 2019, 10:02 PM
Dec 2019

The shooter took two shots hitting two congregants.

One shot was taken by a member/security which hit the shooter in the head.

No need to speculate when you can see the video.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
60. The church-goer was a volunteer security person. He only hit the gunman.
Mon Dec 30, 2019, 08:20 AM
Dec 2019

He likely saved lives.

frogmarch

(12,156 posts)
59. Sickening! My friend in Lincoln, Nebraska, said
Mon Dec 30, 2019, 01:39 AM
Dec 2019

that most churches in Lincoln, including hers (Methodist), have armed security guards. It never occurred to me that someday it would be physically dangerous to attend church.

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