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ChoppinBroccoli

(3,784 posts)
Sun Dec 29, 2019, 01:40 AM Dec 2019

Heard A Great Joke About The "War On Christmas" Today

I was listening to Sarah Silverman on the Al Franken Show tonight, and she relayed a joke she heard from a comedian named Todd Glass. In explaining that by saying "Happy Holidays," you're acknowledging that there are a lot of holidays being celebrated this time of year and you don't know which one the person you're talking to celebrates, so you say "Happy Holidays" to be inclusive, he said that the people who complain that you can't say "Merry Christmas" anymore are probably also mad that they can't say "Hi, Glenn" to every person they meet on the street.

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Heard A Great Joke About The "War On Christmas" Today (Original Post) ChoppinBroccoli Dec 2019 OP
I'd answer back because its my name... Historic NY Dec 2019 #1
Maybe they are complaining that they can't say "Hi Glenn" to Glenn. nt Binkie The Clown Dec 2019 #2
But they *can* say "Hi Glenn" to Glenn. Mariana Dec 2019 #6
Now - it's a War on Glenn! Missn-Hitch Dec 2019 #7
Poor Glenn, what did he do to get caught up in all this? nt. Mariana Dec 2019 #9
Fucking Glenn, I swear to gawd! Iggo Dec 2019 #21
sad....what did I do. Historic NY Dec 2019 #24
Correction: War on Glen(n)! Missn-Hitch Dec 2019 #25
On a semi serious note, PoindexterOglethorpe Dec 2019 #3
Thanks, didn't know that. yonder Dec 2019 #11
They complain that you SUPPOSEDLY can't say Merry Christmas... Beartracks Dec 2019 #4
Right. PoindexterOglethorpe Dec 2019 #12
"Honoring the sentiment" Beartracks Dec 2019 #28
Actually, "Holidays" stands for Holy Days Drahthaardogs Dec 2019 #5
If what you say is true Mariana Dec 2019 #8
That's a rhetorical question right? lunatica Dec 2019 #10
Well, first of all, I completely agree with you Drahthaardogs Dec 2019 #13
Yes, they are morons Drahthaardogs Dec 2019 #15
They also like to pretend it's a new thing that started recently. Mariana Dec 2019 #17
Because they think the season they celebrate is the only one that's 'right'. tanyev Dec 2019 #16
Yes. They are morons. (n/t) Iggo Dec 2019 #22
Persecution complex. MissMarple Dec 2019 #29
You can't fix stupid cantfixstupid Dec 2019 #14
The ultimate challenge Normanart Dec 2019 #20
"...how to fix stupid." Iggo Dec 2019 #23
"Happy Holidays" was written by Irving Berlin Dukkha Dec 2019 #18
He WAS a secret "pinko". not_the_one Dec 2019 #19
I say Happy Holidays cuz many people have some sort of vacation at this time! flor-de-jasmim Dec 2019 #26
Cecily Strong (as Fox "News" Jeanine Pirro) had a great one on the last SNL too. gulliver Dec 2019 #27

Mariana

(14,858 posts)
6. But they *can* say "Hi Glenn" to Glenn.
Sun Dec 29, 2019, 03:06 AM
Dec 2019

In fact, they can say "Hi Glenn" to every person they meet on the street, if that's what they want to do. No one's going to stop them.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,865 posts)
3. On a semi serious note,
Sun Dec 29, 2019, 01:59 AM
Dec 2019

back in the day it was common to address all Pullman Porters as "George". Which was at least better than "boy" which was the otherwise accepted alternative.

Beartracks

(12,816 posts)
4. They complain that you SUPPOSEDLY can't say Merry Christmas...
Sun Dec 29, 2019, 02:17 AM
Dec 2019

... anymore. The "ban" only exists in their victim-complex minds.

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PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,865 posts)
12. Right.
Sun Dec 29, 2019, 04:33 AM
Dec 2019

I personally find "Merry Christmas" to be a bit odd because I don't really celebrate Christmas in a religious way. But that's me, and my problem. If someone says Merry Christmas to me, I say Merry Christmas back, because I am honoring the sentiment. It has NOTHING to do with my beliefs or what I might celebrate, but only with the spirit of the season.

Which is exactly how most people feel, I suspect.

Beartracks

(12,816 posts)
28. "Honoring the sentiment"
Sun Dec 29, 2019, 05:41 PM
Dec 2019

That's a great way to put it.

I remember many, many years ago mailing Christmas cards to high school friends I knew through a statewide academic organization, one of whom I knew to be an atheist. But I didn't want to exclude him, and in my Christian way I most certainly did wish him peace and love in the coming year, so I sent the card. Next time I saw him, the first words out of his mouth, in a sort of plaintive protest, were, "Why'd you send me a card? You know I'm an atheist!" He seemed ok with the reasoning, and I recall he seemed appreciative for the sentiment, but I didn't include him on future Christmas mailings so as to not make him uncomfortable.

Anyhow, I think a holiday wish/greeting should be regarded as a gift to the one to whom it is said, and it's the height of rudeness to refuse it or, as in the case of these "war-on-Christmas" types, to complain the well-wisher did in a way not to their liking. Just take the good wishes in the spirit in which they were intended, regardless of one's personal belief system, and let the blessing go with you for the rest of the day. Honor the sentiment.

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Drahthaardogs

(6,843 posts)
5. Actually, "Holidays" stands for Holy Days
Sun Dec 29, 2019, 02:57 AM
Dec 2019

Because the 12 days of Christmas are full of Catholic high feast days including St. Stephen, Feast Day of Mary, and the Epiphany.

So, anyone who says "Holidays" is a way to make Christmas secular, is a moron.

Mariana

(14,858 posts)
8. If what you say is true
Sun Dec 29, 2019, 03:28 AM
Dec 2019

then why do some Christians get offended when someone says "Happy Holidays" to them? Are they morons?

Anyway, no one says "holidays" as a way to make Christmas secular. They say "holidays" because there's more than one that's observed by various people this time of year, so it's correct to use the plural.

Drahthaardogs

(6,843 posts)
13. Well, first of all, I completely agree with you
Sun Dec 29, 2019, 04:34 AM
Dec 2019

No one does it to make it secular. However, you can verify for yourself all thr Catholic feast days. They were celebrated more before Vatican II, but they still exist. We used to call The Epiphany "Little Christmas" and La Befana would visit. Puerto Rico celebrates Three Kings Day.

Holidays = Holy Days, which just makes their argument all the more ridiculous.

On edit, here is a link


https://www.history.com/news/the-war-of-words-behind-happy-holidays

Drahthaardogs

(6,843 posts)
15. Yes, they are morons
Sun Dec 29, 2019, 04:45 AM
Dec 2019

First because its nothing to get upset over and

Secondly, you can't claim "Happy Holidays" is secular, because it too has religious origins.

Mariana

(14,858 posts)
17. They also like to pretend it's a new thing that started recently.
Sun Dec 29, 2019, 11:01 AM
Dec 2019

Here's a link to a Providence newspaper published Saturday, Dec. 17, 1881. It's only 4 pages. Look at the ads:

Attractive Holiday Goods
Holiday Store
Holiday Gifts
Holiday Novelties
Holiday Cards
Greatest Attractions for the Holidays
Diamonds for the Holidays

https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=V2uI0bKpj5cC&dat=18811217&printsec=frontpage&hl=en

MissMarple

(9,656 posts)
29. Persecution complex.
Sun Dec 29, 2019, 08:54 PM
Dec 2019

They feel the larger culture disparages them and they really, really like to get their knickers in a twist. Those who promote their ‘outrage’ probably laugh at them off camera. But why do they seem to like wearing twisted knickers? ...It’s just too weird...and unChristian. Go figure. 🙄

Normanart

(279 posts)
20. The ultimate challenge
Sun Dec 29, 2019, 03:40 PM
Dec 2019

For the 21st century...how to fix stupid. Seriously, we can see the damage inflicted on society by stupid people, and if do not address the problem, it will only get worse. If I were smart, I might know how to fix stupid, but I don’t.

Iggo

(47,559 posts)
23. "...how to fix stupid."
Sun Dec 29, 2019, 03:59 PM
Dec 2019

The answer is Education.

But, unsurprisingly, they're against that, too.

Dukkha

(7,341 posts)
18. "Happy Holidays" was written by Irving Berlin
Sun Dec 29, 2019, 11:26 AM
Dec 2019

who also composed "God Bless America" so maybe he was a secret commie pinko

The song is also commonly associated with Birther Teabag Idiot Andy Williams

 

not_the_one

(2,227 posts)
19. He WAS a secret "pinko".
Sun Dec 29, 2019, 12:40 PM
Dec 2019

He and Cole Porter had a relationship (and I'm sure there were others....)

Maybe it wasn't TOO much of a secret, since we all know it now...

Just think of all the great music we wouldn't have without the "pinkos" from Broadway.

I remember watching The Andy Williams Show on Sunday nights after church, Ed Sullivan and Bonanza. Loved it. It just proves how clueless I was. I was a country boy, and lived a very sheltered life. I remember seeing my first Catholic, in the 7th grade. I have NO idea when I saw my first Jewish person. There were none in the rural area where I grew up.

Apparently Andy was a (not so) secret polygamy accepting white supremacist.

gulliver

(13,186 posts)
27. Cecily Strong (as Fox "News" Jeanine Pirro) had a great one on the last SNL too.
Sun Dec 29, 2019, 05:10 PM
Dec 2019

"To my Christian friends, I wanna say, 'Merry Christmas!'"

"And to all you Jewish and Muslim folks out there, I said 'MERRY CHRISTMAS!'"

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