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left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
Sat Dec 28, 2019, 10:52 AM Dec 2019

Parents upset over anatomically correct dolls

Parent are raising concern over a popular holiday gift. One Oklahoma family said there was an unexpected feature on a male doll given to their daughter for Christmas.

Amy Rose bought her eight-year-old daughter the “LOL Surprise Dolls” for Christmas. She was playing wither her new LOL Surprise dolls, which includes boys. That's when Rose's daughter noticed the dolls were anatomically correct. Rose said she was shocked. She said there was nothing on the box the toys came in saying the dolls would be that way. She's now going to be paying closer attention to her daughter's toys. Rose said "I was shocked. You just don't know what you're getting for your kids when you go to the store."

There has been a lot of controversy over the “LOL Surprise” dolls form other parents too.

The company that makes the dolls posted a caption on its Instagram saying: "Yes, our boy characters are anatomically correct. We embrace all body styles, shapes, colors and anatomy -- we support a world of inclusivity and no shame! We want all of our fans to feel included in our brand, because there's room for everyone to sit with us."

https://www.10news.com/news/national/parents-upset-over-anatomically-correct-dolls

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Parents upset over anatomically correct dolls (Original Post) left-of-center2012 Dec 2019 OP
So what? An 8 year old girl should be aware of the differences. sinkingfeeling Dec 2019 #1
Yes. Ohiogal Dec 2019 #7
I would not call that doll anatomically correct The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2019 #2
that head is downright scary! Hermit-The-Prog Dec 2019 #5
Stormy and Marco Rubio say it would be anatomically correct if it was orange. keithbvadu2 Dec 2019 #13
Excellent point. Silver1 Dec 2019 #16
Barbie and Ken would be shocked. milestogo Dec 2019 #3
Ken will probably need to seek counselling to address his feelings of inadequacy. Hugin Dec 2019 #8
I am outraged by the hair color left-of-center2012 Dec 2019 #4
"Anatomically correct", please ck4829 Dec 2019 #6
wow... myohmy2 Dec 2019 #9
Like Legos... Hugin Dec 2019 #11
Um... SURPRISE! Hugin Dec 2019 #10
But was it circumcised? bluecollar2 Dec 2019 #12
These dolls are an outrage! Tree-Hugger Dec 2019 #14
They should also have anatomically correct heads and eyes. The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2019 #15
It's been the trend with toys for quite some time Tree-Hugger Dec 2019 #17
i'm old enough to pre-date Barbie. I never had an "adult"-type doll. The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2019 #18
The proportions are designed for cell phone animation... hunter Dec 2019 #19
About 95 percent of the packaging is recyclable. cbdo2007 Dec 2019 #20

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,735 posts)
2. I would not call that doll anatomically correct
Sat Dec 28, 2019, 10:54 AM
Dec 2019

just because he has genitals. That head isn't anywhere near anatomically correct; it's downright mutant.

keithbvadu2

(36,829 posts)
13. Stormy and Marco Rubio say it would be anatomically correct if it was orange.
Sat Dec 28, 2019, 11:24 AM
Dec 2019

Stormy and Marco Rubio say it would be anatomically correct if it was orange.

Silver1

(721 posts)
16. Excellent point.
Sat Dec 28, 2019, 11:26 AM
Dec 2019

It's a politically correct doll, if anything.

But how sneaky to not indicate the doll has genitals on the box label. That's the part which bothers me. They claiming a high ground, yet they deceive their customers because they know the doll wouldn't sell as well if they were honest.

Hugin

(33,164 posts)
8. Ken will probably need to seek counselling to address his feelings of inadequacy.
Sat Dec 28, 2019, 11:08 AM
Dec 2019

Or possibly a Presidential run.

Tree-Hugger

(3,370 posts)
14. These dolls are an outrage!
Sat Dec 28, 2019, 11:25 AM
Dec 2019

They are nothing but excessive and non-recyclable packaging. Tons of plastic is wasted with each doll. The brand also promotes some hardcore consumerism and parents are buying their kids dozens of these. They each come in hard plastic balls or capsules, wrapped in plastic. You have to unwrap the pladtic to get to more plastic. There are layers to unwrap depending on the model. Then, the doll itself is wrapped in a plastic bag. All of it's accessories are wrapped in individual plastic bags as well. Each doll comes with several accessories - the exact number varies with different series models. L.O.L is only one of hundreds of companies that have embraced this ecological nightmare style of toy, but it was the front runner and remains the most popular.

Total outrage.

I give zero fucks about dolls that have penises. I have an 8 year old daughter and I fully encourage anatomical literacy. I think shaming body parts is a recipe for disaster. It's not healthy for little boys to hear that anatomically similar dolls are being labeled as "wrong."

Tree-Hugger

(3,370 posts)
17. It's been the trend with toys for quite some time
Sat Dec 28, 2019, 11:34 AM
Dec 2019

Especially toys that are marketed "for girls." Most figures marketed "for boys" are more proportioned, despite their overly-muscled macho shapes. "Girls" toys within most genres have enormous heads and exaggerated eyes. The proportions are sick. The prevailing view is that these toys, which most often represent females, are hyper-sexualized and given a pornstar fantasy spin. Oddly, the much maligned Barbie whose proportions have been scrutinized for decades, has found herself and her friends with much curvier body types these days while other brands are pushing the lollipop body type - huge head with very skinny and stretched rest of the body. It's disturbing. My daughter once asked if it was a medical condition.

Quotes used because the concept "boys" and "girls" toys is bullshit in my view. All kids can play with all toys.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,735 posts)
18. i'm old enough to pre-date Barbie. I never had an "adult"-type doll.
Sat Dec 28, 2019, 11:52 AM
Dec 2019

In the olden days, most dolls were babies, and apart from lacking genitals they were anatomically pretty accurate and correctly proportioned. IIRC, Barbie came out around 1960, by which time I was a bit too old for dolls and had lost interest in them, but some younger kids in the neighborhood had them. Then Ken came along so Barbie could have a boyfriend. And then pretty soon there was GI Joe so boys could have a doll of their own, except that he had to be called an "action figure" because of course boys couldn't play with dolls. Barbie had a completely unrealistic shape (I read somewhere that a human with her proportions would be about 35 lbs. underweight, even with a 36" bust). But Barbie is at least recognizably human, while the doll in the OP is downright mutant. I don't know what the marketing plan for these dolls might be, but if I was a kid I'd be totally creeped out by them.

hunter

(38,317 posts)
19. The proportions are designed for cell phone animation...
Sat Dec 28, 2019, 02:42 PM
Dec 2019

...both games and stories.

Stereotypical "girls" stories are dialog driven so the characters are depicted as big talking heads. Otherwise it would be difficult to see the character's faces as they talked, especially in scenes with some activity.

In stereotypical "boys" games and stories the action is more important than the words or faces. It doesn't matter if GI Joe's face is just a few pixels.

cbdo2007

(9,213 posts)
20. About 95 percent of the packaging is recyclable.
Sat Dec 28, 2019, 03:00 PM
Dec 2019

All the plastic they and the accessories are wrapped in have 4s and 5s on them.

In fact I just put the bit LOL winter chalet together a few days ago for my daughter and was amazed how much was recyclable compared to other toy companies. It was pretty impressive and the toys themselves are no more mindless than anything else my kids play with.

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