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mfcorey1

(11,001 posts)
Thu Dec 26, 2019, 10:23 PM Dec 2019

National Guard drops two Georgians after investigating extremist ties

Two Georgia men targeted earlier this year by online activists for their associations with radical white extremism have been kicked out of the Army National Guard, following months of investigation.


Army investigators started looking into Dalton Woodward and Trent East, both members of a neo-pagan sect called the Asatru Folk Assembly, earlier this year after the activist group Atlanta Antifascists published a report linking the two men to the controversial sect of paganism identified by the Southern Poverty Law Center as a hate group.At the time, Woodward was on active duty with the Georgia National Guard in Afghanistan. East, a member of the Alabama National Guard, was not on active duty when he was “doxxed,” or publicly outed, by the activist group.National Guard officials have not released details about their investigations.

Woodward’s unit returned from its deployment in June and an investigation into his connections with white supremacy concluded in October.A spokeswoman for the Georgia National Guard said he was “no longer a member” of the guard but declined to comment on the terms of his separation or give details about the investigation. The Atlanta Journal-Constitution had filed a Freedom of Information Act request seeking more details, but that request is pending with the U.S. Defense Department. The AJC requested comment from Woodward through his longtime friend East, but received no response.

https://www.ajc.com/news/national-guard-drops-two-georgians-after-investigating-extremist-ties/PUeyiuk1fzCSZF8J7QMBHM/

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National Guard drops two Georgians after investigating extremist ties (Original Post) mfcorey1 Dec 2019 OP
"Asatru Folk Assembly" TwilightZone Dec 2019 #1
Think "Volk," for this branch. I used to have a better grasp of the differences between the names... Hekate Dec 2019 #3
Root all of them out. marble falls Dec 2019 #2
I hope so -- but I read recently that the Trump admin decided being a white nationalist... Hekate Dec 2019 #4
A pagan hategroup? dawg day Dec 2019 #5
Not at all. Neo-paganism is very broad and has many branches. They are all polytheists... Hekate Dec 2019 #6
Interesting! dawg day Dec 2019 #7

TwilightZone

(25,485 posts)
1. "Asatru Folk Assembly"
Thu Dec 26, 2019, 11:08 PM
Dec 2019

Interesting choice of names. Clearly trying to sound vague and non-threatening.

It's also recognized as a non-profit religious organization. Gotta love open bigotry justified by a "church".

Hekate

(90,827 posts)
3. Think "Volk," for this branch. I used to have a better grasp of the differences between the names...
Fri Dec 27, 2019, 12:44 AM
Dec 2019

...of the racist neo-Nazi branches of Norse neo-paganism versus the ones who were/are primarily about finding their own ethnic roots, and by the way if you felt a calling to join them, okay. I was friends with a couple of the latter -- ethical people. They tend to be male.

Unfortunately, my information is about 20+ years out of date by now. I believe there was considerable fracturing even then. Awhile ago I went back and dug up one of my texts from the mid-1990s, and the struggle was intense between Odinists and Asatru.

The book is still good reading, and covers a lot of territory among the different neo-pagan groups: "Magical Religion and Modern Witchcraft," edited by James R. Lewis, published by SUNY Press. If anyone is interested.

Hekate

(90,827 posts)
4. I hope so -- but I read recently that the Trump admin decided being a white nationalist...
Fri Dec 27, 2019, 12:47 AM
Dec 2019

...was no longer a bar to joining the US military. smdh

Hekate

(90,827 posts)
6. Not at all. Neo-paganism is very broad and has many branches. They are all polytheists...
Fri Dec 27, 2019, 03:10 AM
Dec 2019

...but that covers a whole lot of tradition, retrieved tradition, and invented tradition. The one thing they are not is inherently pacifist. (New-Agers tend to be the pacifists, not pagans and heathens.) As a consequence, I have met veterans and law enforcement officers among them -- they don't (or didn't) advertise, because of the gross misunderstandings possible. They did, however, get themselves recognized as real religions by such groups as the one that authorizes what religious symbols are allowed to be used on gravestones in military cemetaries. Last I heard, religious services were being allowed at the Air Force Academy -- but even then the Academy was being overrun by militant anti-Semitic Christians, so the gods only know what became of the Grove.

They aren't just Norse-based, but British Wiccan, Druids, Celtic, Greek, and Roman. It's a big Pantheon.

Okay, the above are the pagans and heathens who are good neighbors.

The ones who come to the attention of the Southern Poverty Law Center, Hatewatch, and prison wardens are emphatically not good neighbors. They have appropriated Norse/Germanic mythology and Norse gods for malign purposes. They recruit among whites in prison, they recruit among white nationalists and white racists. There's significant crossover with neo-Nazis. Yes, they are pagans, and yes, they are hate groups.

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