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Crisis Looms in Antibiotics as Drug Makers Go Bankrupt
First Big Pharma fled the field, and now start-ups are going belly up, threatening to stifle the development of new drugs.
By Andrew Jacobs at the NYTimes
Dec. 25, 2019, 5:42 a.m. ET
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/25/health/antibiotics-new-resistance.html#click=https://t.co/1i8YKkXx7T
"SNIP....
At a time when germs are growing more resistant to common antibiotics, many companies that are developing new versions of the drugs are hemorrhaging money and going out of business, gravely undermining efforts to contain the spread of deadly, drug-resistant bacteria.
Antibiotic start-ups like Achaogen and Aradigm have gone belly up in recent months, pharmaceutical behemoths like Novartis and Allergan have abandoned the sector and many of the remaining American antibiotic companies are teetering toward insolvency. One of the biggest developers of antibiotics, Melinta Therapeutics, recently warned regulators it was running out of cash.
Experts say the grim financial outlook for the few companies still committed to antibiotic research is driving away investors and threatening to strangle the development of new lifesaving drugs at a time when they are urgently needed.
This is a crisis that should alarm everyone, said Dr. Helen Boucher, an infectious disease specialist at Tufts Medical Center and a member of the Presidential Advisory Council on Combating Antibiotic-Resistant Bacteria.
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CrispyQ
(36,478 posts)So true on so many fronts. Humanity is about to get punched in the face.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)Wounded Bear
(58,666 posts)the boring shit doesn't matter. All it does is keep people alive. All the money is in sexy shit and making a name chasing obscure syndromes nobody has ever heard of.
We need to socialize this to something whose main purpose is keeping people alive, curing real diseases, and alleviating suffering instead of just making money for rich asshole investors.
safeinOhio
(32,688 posts)Thanks.
Wounded Bear
(58,666 posts)how about banning advertising on public media of drugs nobody can pronounce for shit nobody has ever heard of, too.
I guy can dream.
safeinOhio
(32,688 posts)to where it was years ago.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)Come on. This UNDERLINES the need for progressive government assistance in giant projects like developing new antibiotics, including before the next great pandemic.
The headline says startups trying to develop them are going bankrupt!
And Big Pharm backed off because the Republican-controlled government won't invest and provide the usual progressive guarantees and protections against the big risks of heavy losses involved. In others words -- NO progressive assistance.
That's the takeaway.
But here's another: EVERYONE who didn't vote to put government in control the progressive party (that's the Democrats) and to keep Republicans out of power in 2016 and 2018, and all the years before for that matter, effectively VOTED FOR THIS!
Imo, we also need an antibiotic for brain-eating bacteria. Before they destroy us.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)whose brain was being attacked by flesh eating bacteria. They lowered his body temperature to the point where he was still alive but in a coma. The temperature reduction also put the flesh eating bacteria into a dormant state in which Doctors were able to attack it with regular antibiotics and kill it. Once the bacteria was dead, the young guy was brought out of the coma and survived.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)How wonderful that with modern medicine U of FL was able to save his life.
But climate change anyone? Warming waters are causing bacterial growth and people on the coasts to become dreadfully ill.
Next November either the Republican or Democratic Party is going to at least mostly control the federal government.
Past time for anyone who's voted irresponsibly in the past, including "symbolically" for someone who can't win, to realize that these are the consequences of our own irresponsibility. People need to start voting as if our lives and others we care about are at stake. Because they are.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)His case was the first known case where the bacteria was killed and the patient recovered.
Climate change is causing increase reproduction in a lot of bad organisms, also the mosquito season here in Florida seems to be longer.
I totally agree with you on voting. Given how destructive the Republican Party has been, I have absolutely no clue why anyone that call themselves progressive wouldn't crawl to the polls if needed to vote for every democrat on the ballot. People like Susan Sarandon and Cornell West talk about a "revolution". They have been talking that nonsense since the seventies and all that got us were Reagan, Bush I, Bush II and now Trump. Democratic Presidents keep getting elected only to have to clean up the shit that the preceding republican left, then the "revolutionaries" blame the democrat for not making life pink ponies in the sky and free buffets for anyone that want one.
paleotn
(17,931 posts)Someone wants to make lawn chairs or helium balloons in a strictly market driven economy? Sure. Knock yourselves out. But when it comes to people's lives and in this case, the incubation of monstrous drug resistant pandemics? Hell no. I doubt many of us want to go back to the 19th century when it comes to infectious disease, but that's exactly where we're headed, thanks to our blind allegiance to market economics in areas any sane person would recognize it doesn't belong.
Nay
(12,051 posts)people get it?
In fact, if capitalism can earn a dime for actually killing you, it will do so without even looking back.
liberalhistorian
(20,818 posts)many German, American (I'm looking right at you, IBM) and international private companies who profited greatly from supplying the Nazi regime and/or from brutal slave labor in its factories in order to supply Nazi needs.
And it's true now of our private defense companies, the private companies that supply the needs of ICE and the border patrol (you know, little things like cages for children and non-climate-controlled buildings to warehouse thousands of migrants and refugees, etc.). And often any protest against these industries is labeled "un-American", as they have the right to make a buck, how and why and consequences be damned, profit uber alles. It's the American way!
Duppers
(28,125 posts)Yet there are some folks dying from "obscure syndromes." But that research needs to be socialized too.
Crunchy Frog
(26,587 posts)At least the basic ones, and the ones that aren't particularly profitable.
Big corporations can focus on blockbuster boner pills.
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,349 posts)karynnj
(59,504 posts)In fact,imagine if they could review and find the proposed drugs promising, perhaps they could give grants to the failing startups. Possibly for a cap on price if a drug is successful and is produced. A real private/public effort.
paleotn
(17,931 posts)and produced in a government contract structure similar to NASA, DoD, etc. Not perfect, but beats the hell out of the free market royally fucking up and half or more of us dying from a black plague like pandemic.
paleotn
(17,931 posts)Quite possibly the most frightening article I've read...maybe ever. The kicker is these drugs aren't available for the rich or anyone else who needs them to save their lives if they're left to languish because it's unprofitable to complete development, manufacture and market. A complete and total failure of market economics when it comes to healthcare, if even the rich can't access life saving drugs. And the funny thing about drug resistant pathogens...they don't give two shits who you are or how much money you have. They're an equal opportunity killer.
But God forbid guvament get involved in healthcare in any way, shape or form. Market economics. That's the solution! The solution to everything!
THIS is why market capitalism without significant and in some cases massive government intervention DOES NOT WORK in healthcare. Period. End of Fucking Memo.
hedda_foil
(16,375 posts)paleotn
(17,931 posts)government need only set the basic rules and act as referee. All governments do that and for the most part, market forces work just fine within the confines of commons sense. Except...in the areas of needs like food, water, shelter...the commons, and for things that can easily kill us if producers are left to their darker angels. The difference between flower vases and cars for instance. It's a sliding scale of government regulation based on good sense, rooted in a realistic understanding of human nature.
Healthcare is one area where it does not work at all, no matter how tightly the market is controlled. Market forces completely break down when it comes to people's health and lives. In the case of the NYT article, they break down to the point that even rich people are screwed. Right now, the same drug resistant pathogen could kill a homeless person and Bill Gates and there's nothing Gates could do about it no matter how rich he is. That's off the rails to the point even a right winger can understand.
CousinIT
(9,247 posts)But rather into some wealthy PharmaBro CEO's pockets or to the damn shareholders.
Humanity be damned.
NBachers
(17,119 posts)MarcA
(2,195 posts)Lindsay
(3,276 posts)a whole lot of issues these days.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)so they run away from anything where a big profit isn't right around the corner.
PatrickforO
(14,576 posts)The profit motive does not belong in the production of lifesaving drugs.
The profit motive does not belong in the provision of health care.
Those things are both in the realm of public good, and so should be funded publicly.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)Once a product was in sight, private companies took over. Remember republicans ridiculing research on lizards that somehow survived hot deserts, of amoeba that survived under ice? Well, such efforts were the basic research that frequently led to "wonder" drugs or therapies down the line. But Jim and Julie Sixpack living in some leafy suburb only say the republicans' arguments (or idiocy) and voted republican.
Government money that used to go toward medical research that had no products in sight, but which was in the public interest is all but nonexistent today. We see "emergency" funding when something like a mosquito borne illness like Zika strike and scare people shitless, but not at other times when there is no crisis, just longterm public health protection.
stopdiggin
(11,316 posts)(good article, applegrove)
more from link, NYTimes:
One of its sponsors, Senator Bob Casey, Democrat of Pennsylvania, said some of the reluctance to push it forward stemmed from the political sensitivity over soaring prescription drug prices. There is some institutional resistance to any legislation that provides financial incentives to drug companies, he said.
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The industry faces another challenge: After years of being bombarded with warnings against profligate use of antibiotics, doctors have become reluctant to prescribe the newest medications, limiting the ability of companies to recoup the investment spent to discover the compounds and win regulatory approval. And in their drive to save money, many hospital pharmacies will dispense cheaper generics even when a newer drug is far superior.
Youd never tell a cancer patient Why dont you try a 1950s drug first and if doesnt work, well move on to one from the 1980s, said Kevin Outterson, the executive director of CARB-X, a government-funded nonprofit that provides grants to companies working on antimicrobial resistance. We do this with antibiotics and its really having an adverse effect on patients and the marketplace.
One takeaway here -- is that part of the "marketplace" problem highlighted is that consumers themselves do not want to pay for the new drugs -- and, at the same time, they're also not too keen on having someone else (read government) subsidize their cost either.
Which leaves us where? Companies developing brilliant (and desperately needed) new medical solutions -- finding almost no market for such -- and going broke. And the public showing little sympathy or appetite for solutions to the problem. Perhaps foolishly (but that's sometimes how we foolish humans measure things).
applegrove
(118,682 posts)moondust
(19,992 posts)I'll bet he could git'er done!
Oh heck, he's sittin' in prison for gitin'er done. Sorry.
Haggis for Breakfast
(6,831 posts)Martin Shkreli didn't get ANYTHING done unless you consider massive fraud to be an accomplishment. His company did not break any new ground nor did it establish any new medication, treatments or therapies for anything. All he did was take an existing medication and jack up the price beyond reason. How is that an accomplishment ?
He is exactly where he deserves to be. In penitentiary.
moondust
(19,992 posts)ismnotwasm
(41,989 posts)Went to education days on this 10 years ago. No money to be made in antibiotics.
roamer65
(36,745 posts)Fluoroquinlone antibiotics were originally designed to be chemotherapy drugs, but when they failed at that task, they were then employed as antibiotics.
Doxorubicin has antibiotic properties, but as a chemo drug its nickname is the red devil for a reason.
It will be like the days before penicillin, when the cure was as bad or worse than disease itself.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)Most of the penicillin drugs on the market today are way watered down, and even they are classed as "high risk" (get into a health insurance plan that track medicines, you will see what I am talking about). Full strength penicillin kills shit, but it knocks people on their asses, so there is hesitancy to roll it out.
marybourg
(12,633 posts)and who is now trying to flush out an incipient u.t.i. and hoping not to have to take an antibiotic for it, Id say the day has already come.
roamer65
(36,745 posts)First line is metronidazole (aka Flagyl). It hate that stuff.
Good luck to you.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)of things in all cases. Have too many losing meds, and it's tough to keep the doors open.
hatrack
(59,587 posts)Finding drugs that will help wealthy old people:
1. Look younger
2. Grow hair
3. Fuck
Antibiotics? Feh.
Vaccines? Puh-leeze.
Affordable drugs that deal with bilharzia, malaria, dengue, filariasis, leishmaniasis, Chagas disease or tuberculosis? You're joking, right?
pecosbob
(7,541 posts)notinkansas
(1,096 posts)Pharmaceutical companies are drowning in profits.
I call BS.