Pundits saying Trump will be re-elected

[liberalmediaaddict]

When the MSM and political pundits are constantly predicting that "Trump is going to get re-elected" what exactly is their goal? Considering the election isnt for 11 months and the primaries haven't even started are they...
- Trying to scare Democrats or make us feel like it's our fault Trump won't simply go away?
- Punish House Democrats for daring to impeach Trump and angering his already angry base?
- Telling us that none of our candidates are good enough and that we need to conjure up someone more "electable?"
- They get a sadistic thrill in terrorizing the over 55% of Americans who can't stand Trump and who's biggest fear is 5 more years of his toxic Presidency?

I guess it's just that Trump is good for ratings. They know putting his name in a headline gets people's attention. They've been using this trick since 2015 and laughing all the way to the bank. Maybe they're afraid if Trump doesn't get re-elected they'll lose their main source of revenue.

[Poiuyt]

1. You are right that trump is good for ratings

I've seen many pundits predicting a Democratic win as well as a trump reelection. It's not as one sided as you may feel.

Trump, being the incumbent, has a built-in advantage. He also has a good economy going for him (at least that's what the MSM says—unfortunately, this economy is mainly helping the upper crust). I can understand the pundits saying that he will win.

It would be unwise of us to take the 2020 election lightly. It's going to be a dog-eat-dog fight when it should be an easy Democratic win. Because of the make-up of the country, it will be a very close race. That's just the way it is.

FWIW, I predict a very tough and dirty race with the Democratic candidate pulling out a narrow win. Trump will not concede and will not congratulate the winner.

[Eyeball_Kid]

7. I guess I haven't heard a bevy of pundits predicting a second term. It means nothing anyway.

Pundits get paid to opine. Nice job. All they're doing is moistening their fingers and raising them to the wind. When the wind shifts, they'll change their opinions.

[Maru Kitteh]

2. The goal? To get me to move to New Zealand apparently.

If this country does this again on purpose, what else can I surmise, other than my kind is not wanted here? I won't live under a new Nazi regime.

[OliverQ]

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I want out of this country very badly.

[Maru Kitteh]

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[OliverQ]

18. Sadly I work in the luxury hotel business

and have a degree in politics. I don't fit any of the skilled lists.

[Maru Kitteh]

20. Nursing is tough, demanding, dangerous and exhausting work

but the upside is, I can go anywhere I want.

CNA and Medication Aide certifications are easy to get, and they can get you into desirable countries as well. If you are able to do that kind of work.

[Steelrolled]

3. We have to learn to ignore the pundits and their predicitions

They are wrong time and time again - and still people listen to them.

[Blue_true]

35. Bingo. nt

[NanceGreggs]

4. "Maybe they're afraid if Trump doesn't get re-elected ...

... they'll lose their main source of revenue."

That's a GOP talking point - the idea that without Trump, there would be no news to report. Exactly what do you think the MSM has been reporting on for the decades before Trump was 'elected'?

"They know putting his name in a headline gets people's attention."

In case you've never noticed (which you apparently haven't), whoever is in the White House is always in the headlines.

Actually, I have heard few pundits or others in the MSM predicting that Trump will be re-elected. The right wingers are too busy trying to explain why Trump extorting Zelinsky for dirt on the Bidens is not an impeachable offense - and they're failing miserably in that regard.

[RainCaster]

6. In other news, the Earth is flat

I'm so sick of hearing all this BS.

[NJCher]

8. I know what you mean

Pundits are constantly advising us that trump won't be removed by the Senate, but he will have an asterisk next to his name and his presidency will be forever tainted.

If I were a pundit here is what I would say: "Trump isn't going to make it to the fall of 2020, so be prepared for a surprise candidacy from the republicans because Trump will have a physical and mental breakdown." This is an entirely reasonable assumption.

But back to your point. When pundits say that, I just think that they can't come up with anything else. It's an obvious point, it's a safe point at the present, but it sure isn't speaking to their originality or their willingness to go out on a limb to say something interesting.

[ChubbyStar]

9. You are surprised?

If you are, you have not been paying attention.

[SeattleVet]

10. sounds like a call-to-arms to get out the vote!

[fescuerescue]

11. their goal is to sell advertisements

This is true no matter what their bias is.

It's true of CNN, MSNBC, Foxnews and every other non-government based news entity.

They sell advertisements. To draw in advertising viewers, they pander to a chosen demographic.

Remember, News organizations are not people. They are for-profit corporations.

[RockRaven]

13. Trying to look like geniuses in the off-chance that it does happen?

Some may indeed have a variety of nefarious intentions, but the simplest explanation -- to a cynic like me anyhow -- is self-interested and calculated pundit-jockeying.

Consider:

Cable news and newspapers are pathologically addicted to both-siderism even when the "other" side is reality-defying nonsense and, actually, in the case of elections it IS actually an open question as to the outcome...

So *somebody* is going to get paid to say that Trump is going to get re-elected; "It might as well be me!!!" they say to themselves...

Whoever starts banging the drum first for the counter-intuitive/unexpected outcome -- when it comes true -- becomes a sort of political-prophet-of-the-moment for the next 4 years, which is quite a lot of time for book deals and talk show appearances (and associated fees), which can change your professional life/career dramatically...

It's not necessarily a more-likely-to-pay-off-than-not gamble, but given the pay-out if the gamble hits, it seems kind of reasonable in a terrible sort of way.



Plus there's the whole thing about voter disenfranchisement, vote rigging, vote fraud, election fraud, and the like. Which, with the GrOPers, seems like not an insignificant thing to consider in one's cynical calculations...

[WePurrsevere]

14. While I'm pretty sure their support is 'bottom line' based...

It could also potentially rile up anti-Trumpers enough to register and vote in greater numbers. It's sure as heck what I'm hoping for.

[Gothmog]

15. Most POTUS are re-elected unless they have an economic downturn

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Unless there is a recession prior to the 2020 election, then it is likely that trump may be re-elected

[Proud Liberal Dem]

25. Any other President I'd probably agree with

I just hope Trump is the exception. I mean, the economy was doing well in 2016 and Democrats still lost. Democrats need to minimize Trump's "credit" for the economy and emphasize how awful of a person he is and how he is bad for the country on every level. His economic policies aren't exactly all that great and he's essentially bailing out farmers due to his Trade War with China.

[Gothmog]

41. I hope that you are right but the studies show that trump is likely to be re-elected

There are posters who believe that we can nominate the most liberal/socialist nominee as possible and that candidate will easily win because everyone hates trump. It is their position that this is a historic opportunity to nominate someone would otherwise not be electable. This theory is wrong in that most POTUS are re-elected if the economy is good. Here is a scary study that shows this

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There are good reasons to doubt this study

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I do not believe that trump is assured of winning. If we want to win, Democrats need to nominate a strong nominee who is NOT too far out of the mainstream

[MFM008]

16. Yes i heard

Lets just see. 11 months to go..... anything can happen.
Anything.

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

17. Trump saves the news outlets a ton of money. They don't need many reporters anymore.

Now that there is only one new story, called "Trump Today", they can get by on a skeleton crew. If he's impeached and removed, they might need to start reporting on other events around the world.

But for now, did you hear the latest about Trump? ...

[Hugin]

19. They need their horse race and it's sickening. n/t

[liberalmediaaddict]

23. That's really all they care about

They report on our Presidential elections like they are reality TV shows. They love the horse race that goes on for 2 years. All the speculation and debate around a single election day in which the polls are only open for 12 hours. And the race is decided by midnight. Our campaigns go on way too long. And we make it too difficult for every American to vote.

The 2020 election isn't a game show. It's the 2nd most important election in our lifetime. (2016 was the first).

[Buckeyeblue]

21. Aren't they just betting with the odds?

Didn't we only have just 4 presidents voted out after one term in thec20th century? Taft, Wilson, Carter and Bush?

I also think most pundits are only interested in stirring the pot many say things they don't believe.

[scarytomcat]

22. it seems foolish to me for rethugs to run someone who has already been impeached

for president ... losing move? Is he going to bring them all down a notch or two or more if they get to vote to "not remove"

[Nay]

37. Rethugs are notable for doubling down, though. The worse he gets, the more they like him. nt

[Proud Liberal Dem]

24. THANK YOU FOR THIS POST!

I see articles show up in my newsfeed and it just makes me sick. And the Trumpers invariably show up in the comments, gloating over this. I have a feeling that it's for nearly all of the reasons you just listed. I don't know anybody IRL who isn't sick to death of Trump, so it's not like everybody is becoming a Trump "pod person". Hopefully, that Trump fatigue is a real thing and it gets Trump bum rushed out of office next November.

[SWBTATTReg]

26. What so called pundits? A lot of big mouths is all I hear, and if anything, they see the writing...

on the wall that they are going to get wiped out in Nov. 2020. Wiped out.

[Pepsidog]

27. Recent history suggests pundits suck at predicting presidential elections. Let's hope that continues

[lpbk2713]

28. I hope they stake their reputation on it.

Then they will be former pundits.

[brooklynite]

29. They're goal is...to tell you what they think

That’s the job of a pundit.

[N_E_1 for Tennis]

30. If he gets re-elected let's ponder...

First am impeachment looms...it’s driving him crazy now...wait til the trial...even if a sham, press won’t be good for his ego...look at him physically now...observe him mentally...2020 is a long way off.
Then all the other state laws he’s broke...they are coming for him...then maybe another impeachment...it’s been floated.

I’m betting he has a blowout either physically or mentally...his fuse is short. He probably won’t make it past the second year.

[bluestarone]

31. My thoughts are a pretty good chance for a Democratic win. BUT

I wish i could say i'm comfortable about the Electoral college! THIS scares the hell out of me. Any shenanigans, then BARR will cover the bases with his BULLSHIT!

[John Fante]

32. Meh. As it stands, Trump is the decided underdog going into 2020.

That should tell you how unpopular the dimwit is. A dry lump of shit could get 50% approval ratings in these economic conditions, and would be a SHOO-IN to win re-election. Trump is a joke.

[Mike Nelson]

33. One thing I don't hear the pundits talking about is...

... the voters that thought Crooked Donald could not win, so they stayed home. That won't happen net time. That being said, he is good for their bottom line.

[Turbineguy]

34. If you are lazy and can't think of anything else,

there's always trump. And he is needy for the attention.

[VOX]

36. You got it. Fear-inducing, foreboding "news" draws bigger ratings shares.

It’s how Fox pays the rent: Selling FEAR. Every falsehood that network reports is framed as a sinister “threat to liberty,” be it Obama’s tan suit, Planned Parenthood, Hillary’s email (gasp!) or the ceaseless “War on Christmas.”

Same with centrist news networks. Fear sells, as does righteous anger. Fear draws and hooks viewers, who are repeatedly informed that any suffering they’re experiencing isn’t their responsibility, since “someone else” is at fault.

[doc03]

38. All the Republicons are convinced he will get re-elected by a

landslide. The morning after the election they were strutting around giving each the the thumbs up sign. I can't wait to do the thumbs down after the next election.

[Gothmog]

39. Economic models point to a Trump blowout in 2020

I have seen similar studies. It is not a given that trump is beatable in 2020. If the economy is in good shape, then there are models and studies that show that trump can win. Obama left trump with a great economy and trump may not screw up the Obama economy before 2020 and get re-elected.

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I am not counting on the Obama economy faltering and so I am worried. We have to defeat trump

Trump could prove these models wrong by being the biggest asshole in history. Again, historically presidents tend to be re-elected if the economy is in good shape at the time of the re-election and even trump may not e able to screw up the Obama recovery

We need to work even harder to defeat trump

[Gidney N Cloyd]

40. What they're really doing is: repeating each other. Because nobody's actually got a clue.