Question: Who tells the truth, and who lies?..That's it.

[Stuart G]

...In the end, that is what it comes to. Who do you trust to tell the truth? Who lies the most? I had a known liar tell the truth to me once. A student (I was also a student in high school) informed me that Kennedy had been shot. He was telling the truth, but I needed it to be verified. That fellow lied about everything but that.
...Yes, Trump lies and lies and lies. So much so that CNN published an article yesterday about his lies in the last two weeks. (it is in Editorials & Other Articles) ..But it doesn't matter. Trump has proven beyond any doubt that he lies most of the time. He makes things up, and tries to verify them with more lies. Seventy percent of the U.S. believe that he is a habitual liar. Maybe 5 percent are not sure, and the 1/4 remaining believe Trump is telling the truth, and the rest are lying. Don't ask why, that is who Trump supporters are.Maybe the numbers are not totally accurate, but there are a lot of people who believe Donald Trump. I don't, but some do. Or, some don't care that he lies all the time. He is their "leader."
...It is not a new show. In the 50s, the show was that Native Americans do nothing but kill others. It was all a lie. So many other examples. " The war in Viet Nam was a just war" It was not. Nixon: "I am not a crook", Nixon was indeed a crook. It goes on and on.
...Trump has gotten away with lying in the past, and he will continue to do so. In the end, Donald Trump will be known as a "liar" first, and the rest after that. Nancy Pelosi is telling the truth. Who is McConnell protecting? Nancy Pelosi or Donald Trump?

[guillaumeb]

1. In my view, many on the right believe Trump

because he is saying exactly what they want to hear.

Yes, he is a con man, but part of the success of any con man is telling his audience what they want to hear.

[Stuart G]

2. Yes, you are correct, "He is saying exactly what they want to hear."

...It isn't the truth, but they want to hear that. Some do, and some don't care. You want to believe that 50s bullshit about the Native Americans? or...Do you want to know the truth?
Read, "Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee" by Dee Brown. (the truth is horrific)
Some in the church said the world was "flat." It was proven otherwise. People have been believing whatever they want to for eons. It won't stop, and people who want to believe ,Trump will believe him.

[guillaumeb]

5. And his message, like Reagan before him,

is saying that it is possible to return to a past America that never really existed. Yes, unionization was far higher in the 1940s and 1950s, but non-whites and non-males were not welcome in most of these unions.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

3. That's the con: making the marks believe the con.

[guillaumeb]

4. And knowing that no matter how silly the con is,

how implausible it is, a certain percentage of people want to believe it.

And a certain percentage of Trump's followers are racists.

[keithbvadu2]

6. Would believe Trump over Jesus for credibility...

Would believe Trump over Jesus for credibility...

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2017/11/21/trump_voter_if_jesus_christ_came_down_from_the_cross_and_told_me_trump_was_with_russia_i_wouldnt_believe_him.html

About 2:55 on the timeline.

"Let me tell you," he continued. "If Jesus Christ gets down off the cross and told me Trump is with Russia, I would tell him, hold on a second, I need to check with the president if it is true. That is how confident I feel in the president."

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