"The transcript shows Mr Trump asked Mr Zelensky to "do us a favour" and investigate Joe Biden,....

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Trump impeachment: White House withheld Ukraine aid just after Zelensky call https://bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-50886437 "The transcript shows Mr Trump asked Mr Zelensky to "do us a favour" and investigate Joe Biden, ....Hunter Biden..." #MAGA "READ THE TRANSCRIPT"

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Trump impeachment: White House withheld Ukraine aid just after Zelensky call

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-50886437#

22 December 2019


The White House sought to freeze aid to Ukraine just 91 minutes after President Trump spoke to President Volodymyr Zelensky by phone in July, a newly-released government email has revealed.

The email, telling the Pentagon to "hold off", was sent by a senior White House official.

In the phone call, Mr Trump asked the Ukrainian leader to investigate his political rival, Democrat Joe Biden.

Mr Trump has been impeached for abuse of power over the issue.

Democrats say the phone call shows Mr Trump used the office for personal political gain.

A US whistleblower who heard about the conversation raised concerns, which ultimately triggered the impeachment inquiry.............................

Impeachment of Donald Trump

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[sweetloukillbot]

1. Despite the article, nowhere in the linked "transcript" does it say Joe Biden's name directly.

Last edited Tue Dec 24, 2019, 10:32 AM - Edit history (1)

Bad sourcing from a random twitter account.

[Yonnie3]

2. Huh?

"There’s a Lot of Talk About Biden’s Son, That Biden Stopped the Prosecution ..."

Plug that in a search engine for hundreds of sources.

[sweetloukillbot]

4. That's not what the article states is said.

Nowhere does the "transcript" say "INVESTIGATE JOE BIDEN." It's implied, but not directly stated (although it certainly might be in the actual transcript rather than what was released). Joe and Hunter's first names do not appear in the "transcript."

It's sloppy quoting from the BBC, and the tweeter emphasized that particular misquote. The tweeter also put a #MAGA tag on it which is kinda strange, but w/e.

[Yonnie3]

6. That's not in your post to which I responded. n/t

[sweetloukillbot]

7. Fair enough - half-formed thoughts pre-coffee early in the morning

My issue is the direct line "Investigate Joe Biden". The article says that is in the transcript, and the tweeter makes it sound like a new revelation, but that isn't what is in the "transcript".

[Yonnie3]

9. "look into" is attributed to #IMPOTUS in the document.

It seems reasonable to me for it to be paraphrased as "investigate." They didn't offer it as a direct quote. Zelensky took it that way, as he refers repeatedly to investigation in the document.

Investigate is indeed a mighty big word for 45*(Impeached).

[BumRushDaShow]

3. That tweet linked to BBC that linked directly to Whitehouse.gov's transcript - See pg. 4

I will ask him to call you along with the Attorney General. Rudy very much knows what's happening and he is a very capable guy. If you could speak to him that would be great. The former ambassador from the United states, the woman, was bad news and the people she was dealing with in the Ukraine were bad news so I just want to let you know that. The other thing, There's a lot of talk about Biden's son, that Biden stopped the prosecution and a lot of people want to find out about that so whatever you can do with the Attorney General would be great. Biden went around bragging that he stopped the prosecution so if you can look into it ... It sounds horrible to me.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/Unclassified09.2019.pdf

[sweetloukillbot]

5. Find the words "Investigate Joe Biden"

This is a news organization. It shouldn't be misquoting. especially with a link to the actual "transcript."

[BumRushDaShow]

8. So you don't think that this -

so whatever you can do with the Attorney General would be great.

where it is well known what the function of the U.S. Attorney General is, doesn't mean "investigate" ?

There is no "misquoting". There is summarizing - especially when attempting to discuss someone who daily, butchers the English language. And as a note, what was in quotes was the "do us a favour (sic)" (using the British spelling). The rest was not in quotes.

[sweetloukillbot]

10. I could be misreading it - the tweet looked like a direct quote to me

The tweet did make it seem like Joe being directly named was a revelation, especially since that wasn't the subject of the article. I immediately pinged on the "Investigate Joe Biden" and I knew that was never directly said. Thinking this was some new smoking gun, I clicked on the link which dealt more with the e-mail regarding aid, and saw the line, which I knew wasn't in the transcript.

[BumRushDaShow]

11. The problem here is being limited to 140 characters

and the use of the " vs the ', where the single quote ( ' ) is what SHOULD have been used to indicate a quote embedded within the pair of double quotes ( " ). I.e., it should have been written (with the person's tweet quoting the article narrative to include the article's further embedded literal quote) -

"The transcript shows Mr Trump asked Mr Zelensky to 'do us a favour' and investigate Joe Biden, ....Hunter"Biden..."

I agree that the replaying of what the transcript said months later, is redundant, but this was referencing overseas reporting. I think the bigger bombshell is the email that was recently reported regarding OPM (Duffy) telling DOD to hold the money some "91 minutes" (or so the time reported) after the July 25th phone call.

[sweetloukillbot]

13. Agree

I'm just a stickler for clarity and accuracy (10 years in the newspaper biz) and leery of rando twitter accounts posting new revelations. That's how b/s gets spread.

[BumRushDaShow]

14. Well twitter has seemingly taken on a life of its own

although it is helpful for news outlets to get headlines out quicker.

[malaise]

12. Duh! n/t