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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsNow Christianity Today has done it again with another editorial (they weren't kidding i guess)
https://crooksandliars.com/2019/12/citing-love-jesus-christianity-today"SNIP.....
Now Christianity Today has done it again with another editorial, this time by Timothy Dalrymple, their president and CEO, "The Flag In The Whirlwind":
The problem is not that we as evangelicals are associated with the Trump administrations judicial appointments or its advocacy of life, family, and religious liberty. We are happy to celebrate the positive things the administration has accomplished. The problem is that we as evangelicals are also associated with President Trumps rampant immorality, greed, and corruption; his divisiveness and race-baiting; his cruelty and hostility to immigrants and refugees; and more. In other words, the problem is the wholeheartedness of the embrace. It is one thing to praise his accomplishments; it is another to excuse and deny his obvious misuses of power.
Similarly, this is neither a criticism of the evangelical Trump voter nor an endorsement of the Democrats. The 2016 election confronted evangelical voters with an impossible dilemma: Vote for a pro-choice candidate whose policies would advance so much of what we oppose, or vote for an extravagantly immoral candidate who could well damage the standing of the republic and the witness of the church. Countless men and women we hold in the highest regard voted for President Trump, some wholeheartedly and some reluctantly. Friends we love and respect have also counseled and worked within the Trump administration. We believe they are doing their best to serve wisely in a fallen world.
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We nevertheless believe the evangelical alliance with this presidency has done damage to our witness here and abroad. The cost has been too high. American evangelicalism is not a Republican PAC. We are a diverse movement that should collaborate with political parties when prudent but always standing apart, at a prophetic distance, to be what Martin Luther King, Jr. called the conscience of the state. That is what we believe. This is where we plant our flag. We know we are not alone.
Dalrymple closes by saying the publication welcomes supporters and critics alike to submit essays, because "it is time for evangelicals to have a serious discussion about how our identity as Christians shapes our activity as citizens."
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roamer65
(36,745 posts)The best route forward for the human race is the elimination of religion.
Silver1
(721 posts)pwb
(11,276 posts)They can only get better as far as i am concerned.
Stinky The Clown
(67,807 posts). . . . . the right wing tilt that has been the recent history of them. They are on the same side of most issues as I am. There are differences, to be sure, but there is mutual love and respect in those differences.
Hekate
(90,714 posts)H2O Man
(73,558 posts)applegrove
(118,677 posts)too.
elleng
(130,964 posts)Capt. America
(2,477 posts)I'll believe it when I see it.
applegrove
(118,677 posts)issues.
uponit7771
(90,347 posts)... heartlessness not the heartlessness
lastlib
(23,243 posts)When you play with tar, expect it to stick. When you make your bed with the tRump crime family, you can bet your pink ass that bedbugs are going to bite you. Why couldn't these blithering idiots see that??!? And they want us to excuse their incestuous relationship with Republicans and applaud them for their high-falutin' moral family values when they divorce the scum that has soiled their precious, specious morality??
These fools have my eternal consent to proceed with self-fornication. With a pitchfork. An old rusty, manure-encrusted, tetanus-infected pitchfork. Sideways.
gratuitous
(82,849 posts)They're just haggling over the price. Notice that Christianity Today doesn't enumerate the "positive things the administration has accomplished" like they do a quick rundown of immorality, greed,Trump's corruption, race-baiting, divisiveness, and cruelty and hostility toward immigrants and refugees.
My reading is that all of those sins would be forgiven, right quickly, if Trump was just a little quieter about it. It took almost three full years of this nonsense for Christianity Today to get mildly fed up for a moment.
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,349 posts)They're only concerned with how they are perceived, because it will damage their ability to get more suckers to give them money.
They are revealed as immoral, vicious, lying hypocrites.
Piss on their Amway scams. Piss on their "witness". Piss on their "church".
They have evangelized hatred of all who are not within their cult of control.
LAS14
(13,783 posts)Bluesaph
(703 posts)Trump was a means to an end!
applegrove
(118,677 posts)Hekate
(90,714 posts)...from "worldly" things, such as politics. They were seduced by grifters on both the political and religious sides -- the one side saying they could remake the world in one narrow way, if only they followed the GOP; and the other telling them that proof of God's love and approval of them was their prosperity versus other people's poverty and need.
Best of luck to the editors at CT.
usaf-vet
(6,188 posts).. not when some "would-be christian" takes the teaching and bends them for a political reason...then I will believe something has changed. Until then it all appears to me to be a tool of the RW republican agenda.
For example you celebrate his administrations judicial appointments or its advocacy of life, family, and religious liberty.
Really tell that to the families that have been torn apart by his evil policies.
Or the folks who will face one of the RW judges he has appointed.
Nice try but I believe as a movement the evangelical seems to be driven more by hate than compassion.