Coulda done without Clinton's endorsement of Bowles-Simpson

[hfojvt]

and he was doing so good until then.

Bowles-Simpson? This is what we are supposed to get excited about?

Is there really huge public support for that?

[msongs]

1. I thought the point was that ryan was on the committe and voted against it nt

[Cali_Democrat]

2. He didn't specifically endorse the Bowles-Simpson plan

He endorsed the APPROACH.....which is a balanced approach of spending cuts AND tax increases.

The Republicans want all spending cuts, especially to programs like Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security and no defense cuts either.

[hfojvt]

3. sounded to me like he did, called it the Obama approach

but now I would have to find a transcript or video

[hfojvt]

4. it's at the 40 minute mark

he said tha obama's plan was like Simpson-Bowles.

[dawg]

5. In many ways, we are the old Republican party now.

And the G.O.P. is just bat-shit crazy.

We have a MIGHTY NEED for a tea-party-like movement for liberals. Personally, I would call us "New Deal Democrats". But the first priority of such a movement would have to be to do no harm to overall Democratic prospects at the polls.

Change must come from within the Democratic Party. Third parties are counter-productive under our system, and the Republican Party is a lost cause.