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DemocratSinceBirth

(99,716 posts)
Sun Dec 15, 2019, 12:26 PM Dec 2019

If the Navy expels the white nationalist midshipmen will Trump reinstate them?

United States military officials said they were investigating whether Army cadets and Navy midshipmen had flashed hand symbols associated with hate groups at their football game on Saturday.

A broadcast showed cadets from the United States Military Academy and midshipmen from the Naval Academy in the stands displaying the sign at least five times behind ESPN broadcaster Rece Davis at the game, which was held at the Lincoln Financial Field in Philadelphia on Saturday.

President Trump attended the game and met with players in both locker rooms before the game.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/15/us/army-navy-game-white-supremacy.html?action=click&module=Latest&pgtype=Homepage


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jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
2. Why would they?
Sun Dec 15, 2019, 12:33 PM
Dec 2019

Their Commander in Chief is fine with it, they know it, and it is practically insubordinate or even mutinous to buck the tide.

exboyfil

(17,865 posts)
3. Plausible denialibility
Sun Dec 15, 2019, 12:37 PM
Dec 2019

Maybe the investigation will show other activities that support racism.

Basically it is a gang symbol without being a gang symbol. The excuse trotted out is that it is a long standing game that has nothing to do with racism.

mitch96

(13,929 posts)
6. I don't condone this action and around the world it has many meanings
Sun Dec 15, 2019, 01:11 PM
Dec 2019
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OK_gesture
I was told years ago not to flash the "ok" in Germany.... could be misunderstood...
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abqtommy

(14,118 posts)
9. If the Army/Navy expels tRUMP will the racist military cadets reinstate him? I doubt it. See, it
Sun Dec 15, 2019, 02:15 PM
Dec 2019

just depends on how we frame the question...

nolabear

(41,992 posts)
11. I'm in favor of investigating and seeing what they're like otherwise.
Sun Dec 15, 2019, 02:31 PM
Dec 2019

A very public look at these guys, having a conversation with them, inviting them to participate in a non-punitive look at what they did, what they meant and why people were upset at the prospect of cadets flashing a hate sign. Beat them without bashing them.

Whether they did or didn’t, approaching it this way denies anyone victimhood, educates the public about why this would be very dangerous and foolish, and gives the chance for Army to say “This is now considered by many to be hate speech. Never, ever, ever do it. You will not be able to claim ignorance. We are all Americans and deserve consideration and care.”

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