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mopinko

(70,113 posts)
Sat Dec 14, 2019, 01:31 PM Dec 2019

alex witt, chuck todd and the trouble w journalists.

so, i have this little farm. it's been in the news a few times.
i also live a few short miles from northwestern, as well as loyola, both of which have journalism programs.
so, i have been interviewed several times by j students.
most times i read what they wrote, and shook my head.

here's the thing- they ask basic question, the w's and all that.
fine. start there. if you have a good interviewee, you will get a decent story.

but here is the thing- you ask those questions when you know nothing.
but when you actually have a knowledge base, you ask completely different, better questions. you might be able to write a better article than the usual- abc of urban farming, say. you might be able to write something that is actually enlightening. that contains info that your fellow citizens might be able to use.

now, witt and todd are both guilty, imho, of asking those stupid j-101 questions. always. in spite of all they know at this point, they keep asking the same stupid questions. they ask 'what is trump thinking?'- the stupidest question ever. the most irrelevant at this point. they continue to give their 'innocent' benefit of the doubt type questions.

they make me sick. such epic fails they are.

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alex witt, chuck todd and the trouble w journalists. (Original Post) mopinko Dec 2019 OP
You don't like the, "But what about democrats whose districts went to Trump now how are they ... Botany Dec 2019 #1
that was exactly the question that made my fingers itch. mopinko Dec 2019 #3
There's a market for it somewhere... Maxheader Dec 2019 #2
msnbc is background noise in my house most days. mopinko Dec 2019 #4
I'm making the mistake of having it on thegoose Dec 2019 #25
Absofuckinglutely, mopinko! rusty fender Dec 2019 #5
Weekends in the media belong to the Republicans and low IQers katmondoo Dec 2019 #6
yup. mopinko Dec 2019 #9
Have They Asked If The UK Election Is A Warning For Dems Yet? Me. Dec 2019 #7
right now she is baffled by rudy in ukraine. mopinko Dec 2019 #8
But I Bet Her Hair Looked Great Me. Dec 2019 #12
ugh. that too. she belongs on faux. mopinko Dec 2019 #13
Alex Witt is one of MSNBC's worst news people. The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2019 #15
They never move beyond the "conventional wisdom" BuffaloJackalope Dec 2019 #10
for that i usually go to chris matthews. mopinko Dec 2019 #11
Witt and Todd are to journalism what those who "paint-by-the-numbers" are to art. nt Atticus Dec 2019 #14
The afore mentioned Wellstone ruled Dec 2019 #16
Joy Reid seems to have a firm grip on the steering wheel of her weekend show. hedda_foil Dec 2019 #27
They do allow her from time to time Wellstone ruled Dec 2019 #29
They should be described as Journalism for Dummies reporters lunatica Dec 2019 #17
I think they're different Brainstormy Dec 2019 #18
Talking "their" language Roy Rolling Dec 2019 #19
Alex Witt is an airhead lillypaddle Dec 2019 #20
K&R, the stenographers are completely dispassionate from the subject because they're not threatened uponit7771 Dec 2019 #21
I don't think Toad is a journalist. Isn't he more of a commentator and propagandist? Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2019 #22
Alex and Chuck are Trumpers. gab13by13 Dec 2019 #23
How many times have I thought the very same thing!❤ Karadeniz Dec 2019 #24
You are confusing Chuck Todd with journalism and he is not a journalist Don't know the other guy you Sherman A1 Dec 2019 #26
Alex Witt hedda_foil Dec 2019 #28
Oh, Sherman A1 Dec 2019 #32
Except they aren't journalists Nature Man Dec 2019 #30
Precisely Sherman A1 Dec 2019 #31

Botany

(70,512 posts)
1. You don't like the, "But what about democrats whose districts went to Trump now how are they ...
Sat Dec 14, 2019, 01:35 PM
Dec 2019

... gonna vote on impeachment?" Question for the 388th time?

BTW those districts might have very well gone to Trump because of Russian/Republican meddling.

mopinko

(70,113 posts)
3. that was exactly the question that made my fingers itch.
Sat Dec 14, 2019, 01:37 PM
Dec 2019

now she's asking if outing cheatos crimes might help dems in 2020.

Maxheader

(4,373 posts)
2. There's a market for it somewhere...
Sat Dec 14, 2019, 01:35 PM
Dec 2019


I can't believe that people watch alex jones...or quote the winger handjobs in congress...

mopinko

(70,113 posts)
4. msnbc is background noise in my house most days.
Sat Dec 14, 2019, 01:38 PM
Dec 2019

but the weekend crew tends to lead to watching movies.

 

thegoose

(3,115 posts)
25. I'm making the mistake of having it on
Sat Dec 14, 2019, 04:26 PM
Dec 2019

And keep getting triggered by these nitwits. This isn't "Democrats versus Republicans." It's real people versus monsters.

Me.

(35,454 posts)
7. Have They Asked If The UK Election Is A Warning For Dems Yet?
Sat Dec 14, 2019, 01:48 PM
Dec 2019

and done their both sides tap dance

mopinko

(70,113 posts)
8. right now she is baffled by rudy in ukraine.
Sat Dec 14, 2019, 01:52 PM
Dec 2019

the guest says- if you look in the dictionary for chutzpah, there a pic of rudy in ukraine. he lays it out like he is talking to a 2nd grader. alex closes the segment w, well, i'm still putting it next to baffled.

 

BuffaloJackalope

(818 posts)
10. They never move beyond the "conventional wisdom"
Sat Dec 14, 2019, 01:55 PM
Dec 2019

Even when they know it's misleading - or just plain wrong.

mopinko

(70,113 posts)
11. for that i usually go to chris matthews.
Sat Dec 14, 2019, 02:00 PM
Dec 2019

but yeah, always so superficial. i guess that's the weekend gig.

eta- that shit only turns out to be real when they pound it relentlessly. see- buttery males.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
16. The afore mentioned
Sat Dec 14, 2019, 02:14 PM
Dec 2019

corporate script readers are just that. MSNBC as well as it's so called parent,NBC are wholly owned subsidiary of Comcast Cable Company. Comcast is going to control most of the messaging in order to protect their Meal Ticket Trump.

It is the Program Director and Producers whom call the shots and do the writing and rewriting of the on air talents Q&A. Yes,the Talent has a certain amount of leeway but that has limits. Only O'Donnell and Maddow have total control .. Weekend so called Anchors are usually the low paid Talent who are not ready for Prime Time.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
29. They do allow her from time to time
Sat Dec 14, 2019, 05:22 PM
Dec 2019

to expand the Q&A and that is because of the major push back from viewers when she was stripped of her Prime time spot and the fact Comcast had zero Female African-American Script readers. When the eye-ball numbers move in any direction,you can damn well bet there will be adjustments.

The major outlier is Chuck Todd and Tweety. One was hired by Roger Alies and the other was hired as VP in charge of Political Affairs.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
17. They should be described as Journalism for Dummies reporters
Sat Dec 14, 2019, 02:16 PM
Dec 2019

I think it’s possible most of them simply don’t have a clue about connecting the dots quickly as background for a more in depth developed story to expand. Or their professors, who might be failed journalists, discourage anything outside the ‘rules’.

It’s also formulaic writing. Like the genre rules for romance novels where words depicting the male anatomy can’t be the correct terminology and the plots have definite do’s and don’ts.

Brainstormy

(2,380 posts)
18. I think they're different
Sat Dec 14, 2019, 02:21 PM
Dec 2019

Witt is just a vanilla journalist without much in the way of imagination or gray matter. Todd has an agenda. He always wants to stir the pot and particularly to piss off democrats. I don't trust him. Can't stand the way he frames questions.

Roy Rolling

(6,917 posts)
19. Talking "their" language
Sat Dec 14, 2019, 03:12 PM
Dec 2019

Todd, et al, think if they act dumb they will be relatable to Trump devotees and Republicans.
The problem is, those people are just playing dumb. They’re just repeating and mindlessly doing what Trump says. They’re cult members, so no amount of journalism and facts can change their opinion—they hardly believe themselves. Next year, those hypocrites will say the opposite.

You can awaken someone who is sleeping, but you can never awaken someone pretending to be asleep.

lillypaddle

(9,580 posts)
20. Alex Witt is an airhead
Sat Dec 14, 2019, 03:13 PM
Dec 2019

I really can't stand listening to her ask those stupid questions in that sing-song manner that she has. And Chuck Toad - well, he's another story entirely. So shallow and lame, both of them.

uponit7771

(90,346 posts)
21. K&R, the stenographers are completely dispassionate from the subject because they're not threatened
Sat Dec 14, 2019, 03:20 PM
Dec 2019

... but threaten them or theirs and you'd have 100 different interview.

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
26. You are confusing Chuck Todd with journalism and he is not a journalist Don't know the other guy you
Sat Dec 14, 2019, 04:26 PM
Dec 2019

mentioned

Todd's function is to fill airtime between ads for drugs we never knew we needed and nothing more. It is Infotainment and nothing more. Don't hold him to a standard higher than what his employers expect. If you don't like his presentation, find something else as it will not change.

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