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McConnell's vow of a rigged trial gives Dems an opening. They can try to force votes on fairer rules, and call for admission of new evidence, putting vulnerable Rs in a tough spot. Expert @mollyereynolds helps explain the process. @paulwaldman1 and me:
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For more on the procedural nuances to this, see this @NormOrnstein thread. Norm and @mollyereynolds are two of the best out there on Congressional procedure, so it's good to see them weighing in similarly:
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Mitch McConnell's stunning and outrageous admission that he is in the tank already for Trump on the trial rules, is a flat violation of the oath he will take as a juror. If a jury foreman in a murder trial was found to have worked closely with the defense he would be prosecuted.
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UniteFightBack
(8,231 posts)and they don't give a shit...that is a serious problem. Dem's need to hammer....RIGGED RIGGED RIGGED.
Dem's need to coordinate and attack...why is this not done? We need to take a few pages from the Russiapukes.
2naSalit
(86,636 posts)bluestarone
(16,959 posts)Cartoonist
(7,317 posts)The Law is dead.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)As I relax in my easy chair, many people are engaged in a fierce battle, already begun.
grumpyduck
(6,240 posts)I would think that if he goes thru with this, he would be in violation of something -- his oath of office or the legal profession's ethics, or something concrete. In which case he should be disbarred.
Maybe no biggie for him personally, but a precedent and a warning to other MoCs who choose to act like assholes.
KPN
(15,646 posts)describes the sheer absurdity of this national cluster we are now experiencing. Seriously ... couldnt state it better.
Thank you for that simple, straight-forward and logical statement, and ....
ancianita
(36,060 posts)Hermit-The-Prog
(33,348 posts)I refer you to Article 1, Section 5:
Each House may determine the rules of its proceedings, punish its members for disorderly behavior, and, with the concurrence of two thirds, expel a member.
https://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/articlei#section5
ancianita
(36,060 posts)the majority leader to recuse himself by floor vote. That's a proceeding change.
KPN
(15,646 posts)expel Moscow Mitch?!
struggle4progress
(118,290 posts)bucolic_frolic
(43,173 posts)Dems should strategize on flummoxing Moscow Mitch in courts before the trial, if they can find any angle, and impromptu at Senate trial with Senate rules based on Clinton's impeachment, or for CJ Roberts to rule on.
Mitch is exposed and vulnerable if a counter-strategy can be found and formulated
ancianita
(36,060 posts)eleny
(46,166 posts)It's not going to be a regular court of law.
But taking this route, it sounds like he's revealing the president, himself and the Republicans as the fascists we understand them to be. Great fodder for the upcoming election season.
Takket
(21,573 posts)I guess the question the GOP has to ask itself is "do we look worse just covering all this up an acquitting without even having a trial, or do we look worse letting all this damning evidence get called, so at least the process looks fair even if Trump looks MORE guilty, and we acquit anyway."
Funny thing is drumpf wants the "long" trial because he is completely delusional and thinks the whistleblower, Hunter and Schiff are the real criminals. He wants to put THEM on trial and thinks it will vindicate him but he's so dumb he doesn't understand that if McConnell sets the rules for the "long" trial that all drumpf's evidence gets brought in to.
This is where his handlers need to take him by the hand to mcdonalds, sit across the table from him with a filet of fish and a new toy, and explain to him in little tiny words that he's as guilty as fuck and needs to let the grown ups save his ass.
for the GOP the best thing to do is the "short trial" no evidence or witnesses and just pretty much say "the articles are BS, we vote to dismiss/acquit right now." Then just let the news cycle move on like none of this ever happened. Then pray the damage is limited enough that they don't lose the senate in 2020. The Democrats need to be prepared for this... and make sure every GOP Senator running in 2020 wears the sham trial like a noose for all of 2020.
To me the goal of all this is to win the Senate next year as fallout for the GOP betraying the country. Since conviction is impossible with these traitors.
Dan
(3,564 posts)Vote for impeachment, and then hold off sending the articles of impeachment to the Senate until after the election. Thereby neutering Moscow Mitch and (as he said) and let the people decide.
mahatmakanejeeves
(57,464 posts)They can opt to not send it to the senate at all.
Then they have no chance to acquit him
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mahatmakanejeeves
(57,464 posts)Halo!, you can read it here: Thread by @ThePlumLineGS: McConnell's vow of a rigged trial gives Dems an opening. They can try to force votes on https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1205596680202178565.html . Share this if you think it's interesting. 🤖
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