"When conservatives can't win they don't abandon conservatism they abandon Democracy"

[redstateblues]

Brilliant quote from David Frum from his book Trumpocracy, along with Nicolle Wallace, one of my favorite former Republicans

[roamer65]

1. They remove the cloak hiding their true selves.

They are fascists under a “conservative” cloak.

[GusBob]

2. Absolutely and embrace what?

Autocratic

[redstateblues]

4. Boom

[unblock]

3. When the will of the people is to reject conservativism, conservatives reject the will of the people

[redstateblues]

5. At least there are some Republicans that are seeing the light. Jennifer Rubin is another

[JonLP24]

15. Jennifer Rubin is horrible. She is why I cancelled my Washington Post subscription

I'm not impressed with Republicans that don't like Trump then try to meddle in our party politics. I have been opposed to Republicans long before Trump and I will oppose them long after Trump.

[uponit7771]

6. AMEN!!

[Martin Eden]

7. What is "conservatism"??

That word Republicans keep using; I don't think it means what they think it means.

[ooky]

9. I had the same question.

I don't think it has anything to do with their pro-Russia agenda. Pretty soon we'll be seeing them hanging pictures of Putin in their homes and offices.

[Martin Eden]

10. Conservatism has become Trumpism

Vile, corrupt, mendacious, and treasonous.

[Garrett78]

13. It's defined as such:

"Traditional values" (i.e., white, cis-gendered men sit atop the hierarchy), opposition to change, private ownership of everything (i.e., there's no such thing as 'the commons' or 'general welfare') and a belief in a mythical "free market" (a market free of government involvement is pure fantasy).

It's always been bullshit, even before the modern Republican Party went batshit crazy.

[Martin Eden]

16. Today, the definition needs to include:

Rejection of truth, law, Constitutional principles, Christian values, and basic human decency in subservience to a unitary executive of their party -- even when that treasonously serves the interests of a foreign adversary.

Denial of science and objective reality to benefit their wealthy campaign donors -- even when that causes premature death with environmental toxins and catastrophic climate change.

[Garrett78]

17. Much of that has been true all along, but you're right that those are now primary features.

[Fiendish Thingy]

8. The implication of this quote is...

When Democrats can't win, they abandon liberalism/progressivism...

Hmmm...

[redstateblues]

12. Democrats are different. When they can't win they keep trying

And they don’t cheat. Sometimes I think we ought to start playing the way they do-but I don’t think that for long. The Republicans have sold their souls to the dark side

[roamer65]

14. Cheating to save the planet for human existence is justified.

IMO.

[zaj]

11. They seek domination, not conservation.

30% of any nation seeks authoritarian leaders. And 100% of them are now in the GOP, as it loses power through an emerging demographic wave.

That's a recipe for social destruction. It's extremely dangerous.