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applegrove

(118,767 posts)
Sun Dec 8, 2019, 01:07 AM Dec 2019

Giuliani 'Caused Shock' Among Ukrainians for Working with Expelled Politician Who Proposed Leasing

Crimea to Russia

by Jerry Lambe at Law and Crime

https://www.google.com/amp/s/lawandcrime.com/high-profile/giuliani-caused-shock-among-ukrainians-for-working-with-expelled-politician-who-proposed-leasing-crimea-to-russia/amp/

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But the sordid list of “witnesses” taking part in the Giuliani-led effort, for the most part, appears to be laundry list of corrupt or otherwise extremely impeachable public figures. Of particular note is a former parliamentarian who was expelled from the country after proposing Crimea be rented to Russia, according to a Saturday report from The Daily Beast.

“Indeed, Giuliani’s choice of guest stars in his would-be reality show, and his wider cast of sources, caused shock among many in Kyiv’s establishment who know their questionable backgrounds in considerable detail,” the report said.

Andrii Artemenko was expelled from Ukraine’s Radical Party and accused of treason by Ukrainian prosecutors in 2017 for meeting with President Trump’s then-personal attorney Michael Cohen, and Russian-American businessman and former Trump associate Felix Sater on January 27 in New York — where a strategy was discussed that would permit Russia to lease Crimea for between 50-100 years.

Ukrainian prosecutors accused Artemenko of conspiring with Russia to commit “subversive acts against Ukraine,” by designing a strategy that would “legitimize the temporary occupation” of the Crimean peninsula, which Russia forcibly and illegally annexed in 2014. Artemenko reportedly told the Daily Beast that he played “the key role” in helping Trump’s investigations.

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Giuliani 'Caused Shock' Among Ukrainians for Working with Expelled Politician Who Proposed Leasing (Original Post) applegrove Dec 2019 OP
Why are they allowing him to cause such a mess C_U_L8R Dec 2019 #1
They are afraid of angering Trump still. He might threaten them again applegrove Dec 2019 #2
Ukraine is in an extremely, extremely vulnerable position right now stopdiggin Dec 2019 #5
Rudy is Putin's bitch too sakabatou Dec 2019 #3
+1 2naSalit Dec 2019 #4
No! The Retrumplican Party are Putin's bitch. maxrandb Dec 2019 #6

C_U_L8R

(45,020 posts)
1. Why are they allowing him to cause such a mess
Sun Dec 8, 2019, 01:10 AM
Dec 2019

in their country? It's about time Ukraine stood up to these Trump crooks

applegrove

(118,767 posts)
2. They are afraid of angering Trump still. He might threaten them again
Sun Dec 8, 2019, 01:14 AM
Dec 2019

by not letting them get the military aide.

stopdiggin

(11,358 posts)
5. Ukraine is in an extremely, extremely vulnerable position right now
Sun Dec 8, 2019, 04:45 AM
Dec 2019

Without U.S. support (self-evidently very iffy at this point) .. there is really very little keeping Putin away from making (another) land grab of Ukraine territory. So .. having witness the events of the past 2 years, do YOU want to brace an mercurial and fickle Trump administration?

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