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polichick

(37,152 posts)
1. This is the truth. But it's not just Trump. We've all been bamboozled by a system...
Fri Dec 6, 2019, 08:32 AM
Dec 2019

that serves the wealthy and corporations, and any real attempt to do something threatening to that status quo is shot down - in this party it’s done by fearful warnings about “centrists” being more electable and by party rules.

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
2. money is a symptom of as dysfunctional democracy that can't regulate money
Fri Dec 6, 2019, 09:25 AM
Dec 2019

we let 1500 corporate-coordinated (now putin) radio stations blast the country for 30 years with "money is free speech" "corporations are people" "deregulation lowers prices and creates jobs" "minimum wage kills jobs" "single payer is communism" and so on

and every time democrats have tried to regulate money, like most other reforms, team liimbaagh gets the talking points to scream socialism again.

and right now those raadio stations are not only trying to make sure no GOP senator would dare vote to convict trump, they're calling warren and sanders "communists!" or "socialists!" all day, and we're letting them move the entire dem primary 15 pts right again, just like they do to the GOP primaries

Dustlawyer

(10,495 posts)
5. +1!!! This!
Fri Dec 6, 2019, 09:53 AM
Dec 2019

These people were programmed by corporate media, we all are to some extent. Huge corporate advertisers decide which stories are stories that get aired or not. They have the power of the purse over the networks, newspapers, and radio.

Corrupt campaign finance system, aided by SCOTUS, Lobbyists, and the revolving door determine what laws are passed and which are repealed.

These Trumpsters and Republicans give these people bogeymen such as immigrants and minorities to blame for their hardships instead of the wealthy and huge corporations.

If we are ever to break out of this we will need to address these root causes of most of our problems.

Mc Mike

(9,114 posts)
3. I notice, though, the hats are 'making america great again', instead of
Fri Dec 6, 2019, 09:27 AM
Dec 2019

'keep america great'. Rump's nazi message framers got the message that he couldn't win support from his bamboozled followers by telling them they 'got all they're gonna get from him, everything's fixed'.

tobefree

(33 posts)
4. Mark Twain noticed that also:
Fri Dec 6, 2019, 09:45 AM
Dec 2019

It's easier to fool people than convince them that they have been fooled - MarkTwain

tobefree

(33 posts)
12. He was an insightful man...
Mon Dec 9, 2019, 04:50 PM
Dec 2019

And as for me, well, thank you for the welcome. I don’t post much cuz one finger phone typing just causes me to lose my thought before I have it down in text. Oh well. I been here daily since 2004.

:^)

erronis

(15,294 posts)
8. Confirmation bias
Fri Dec 6, 2019, 11:20 AM
Dec 2019
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bias#Confirmation_bias

They've bought an Edsel so now they have to stick with it.

Confirmation bias is the tendency to search for, interpret, favor, and recall information in a way that confirms one's beliefs or hypotheses while giving disproportionately less attention to information that contradicts it.[34] The effect is stronger for emotionally charged issues and for deeply entrenched beliefs. People also tend to interpret ambiguous evidence as supporting their existing position. Biased search, interpretation and memory have been invoked to explain attitude polarization (when a disagreement becomes more extreme even though the different parties are exposed to the same evidence), belief perseverance (when beliefs persist after the evidence for them is shown to be false), the irrational primacy effect (a greater reliance on information encountered early in a series) and illusory correlation (when people falsely perceive an association between two events or situations). Confirmation biases contribute to overconfidence in personal beliefs and can maintain or strengthen beliefs in the face of contrary evidence. Poor decisions due to these biases have been found in political and organizational contexts.
 

Still In Wisconsin

(4,450 posts)
9. They are willfully bamboozled. It's like people who watch pro wrestling and believe it's real...
Fri Dec 6, 2019, 11:37 AM
Dec 2019

because they desperately WANT to believe it's real. When your hero is "Stone Cold" Steve Austin you need to believe he's a real athlete. When your hero is Donald J. Trump... you get the idea I'm sure.

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