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Well, these assholes think so...
The Religious Rights War on the War on Christmas Is Well Underway
Just as stores start playing Christmas music long before Thanksgiving, religious right groups do not wait for the start of Advent season to start complaining about the supposed war on Christmas by the nations retailers. Anti-LGBTQ legal group Liberty Counsel launched this week its annual Naughty and Nice list, which is meant to steer shoppers away from stores that rely too much on Happy Holidays messaging and not enough on the true Reason for the season. The list is part of the groups Friend or Foe Christmas Campaign, which promises to be a Foe to those who try to censor Christmas.
Liberty Counsel is also promoting a Prager U video published a few years ago in which right-wing propagandist Dennis Prager explains why saying Happy Holidays is not, as you might think, an inclusive approach to the holiday season in a diverse society. Instead, he claims that not using the word Christmas is hurtful. Prager portrays public-facing employees as being afraid to use the C-word for fear of violating all the sensitivity training theyve had to undergo. Prager insists, Of course its a war on Christmas, which he says is really a war on the religious nature of America.
https://www.rightwingwatch.org/post/the-religious-rights-war-on-the-war-on-christmas-is-well-underway/
eleny
(46,166 posts)Initech
(100,080 posts)Newest Reality
(12,712 posts)Yay! It's time to break out the candycane catapults and the gingerbread grenades! Break the doors down with Yule logs and be shure launch some missile toes!
Let it blow, let it blow, let it blow!
DVRacer
(707 posts)Of the raid on the compound at the North Pole. Did the old man run off into an ice cave like a dog?
ProfessorGAC
(65,060 posts)At least it looked that way in Fred Claus!!!
klook
(12,155 posts)Captain Stern
(2,201 posts)Is it too much to ask that we at least finish up the 'war on thanksgiving' first?
There's only so much time in the day, and lots of us still have to work. And, on top of that we're still dealing with the fallout over Columbus Day and Halloween.
Cartoonist
(7,317 posts)PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,861 posts)but when I cop the location and try that, the bottom part, Don't Be Fooled By Imitations, is cut off. Darn.
Cartoonist
(7,317 posts)Try opening the image in a new tab, and then copy that URL.
I'm glad you like it. I got sick of seeing those Jesus is the reason signs.
Bradshaw3
(7,522 posts)Me too.
I wish one person of note would have the temerity to say, "You know America's version of Christmas has become little more than an exercise in mindless materialism and let's stop with the religious excuse." Yes there are people who donate time to feed the poor and who get sustenance from their relgion but this is 100 times worse than I was a kid. It's all about buying crap - which I don't have a problem with for kids although they go overboard on that too.
PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,861 posts)Only this time I simply copied the picture and posted that. It worked!
Hooray!
LakeArenal
(28,819 posts)For the last few years Ive made Solstice cards. I send them to everyone. I was told it offend someone...
But I could not care less....
The Solstice is the only factual thing about the season. Halloween, Thanksgiving, Jesuss birthdate, New Year all fake.
I personally consider the Solstice the New Year.
But I dont insist it is
wryter2000
(46,051 posts)It means the days get longer and the seed catalogues start coming.
LakeArenal
(28,819 posts)Ferryboat
(922 posts)Christmas is winning hands down. Christmas holiday decorations are out before Halloween. Plows right over Thanksgiving like a speed bump.
I realize it is all about making holiday sales and finishing with a strong last quarter. So much for goodwill towards your fellow man.
ProudLib72
(17,984 posts)Or is that also not kosher?
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)"Good Christians" say Merry Christmas the proper way. But it's up to you.
ProudLib72
(17,984 posts)Even if I were, I would never be a "good Christian!"
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)Poor you!
FWIW, I am a fallen Christian. Even as a child, I knew it was bullshit.
ProudLib72
(17,984 posts)he was shocked. He had been raised in a Catholic family. They weren't really religious, but I think they still kept some of the practices like going to mass. Anyway, my parents lived in Las Vegas at the time, so one of our stocking stuffers was rolls of quarters for the slot machines. We all went down on the strip for Christmas!
lordsummerisle
(4,651 posts)going on ad nauseam about this. Off camera they probably were cracking up about how the rubes were buying it.
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)The older I get the less I even worry about Xmas. Hopefully those whom have to get up each day and trudge to work get a couple days off with pay. That is not a given anymore.
Liberal In Texas
(13,556 posts)You know, the Libs that are guacamole toast eaters or some other nutso meme.
maxrandb
(15,333 posts)Gee, imagine what we could do to hate radio if we ever went to war with them.
bluecollar2
(3,622 posts)Told me it starts next Thursday.
Roland99
(53,342 posts)I guess weve been at war with Christmas since WWII
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Happy_Holiday_(song)
Mariana
(14,858 posts)I was reading some newspapers from December 1895, and they were chock full of notices for Holiday parties, Hoiiday sales, holiday trips, etc.
Archae
(46,333 posts)His pet "newspaper" ran stories about how "Jews were at war with Christmas" in the 20's and during the Depression.
Lady Freedom Returns
(14,120 posts)The Evangelical right can go stick a candy cane up their rears, hook first.
Norbert
(6,040 posts)He must have been a heathen. He don't say Christmas at all.
Seriously, who are the snowflakes?
Archae
(46,333 posts)These are groups that are demanding the US become a "Christian nation."
Jews? Forget it.
Muslims? Hell no.
Buddhists? Bite your tongue.
Atheists? Absolutely not.
Groups like the one in the OP are obsessed with making everyone worship the way *THEY* demand, almost always born-again fundamentalists with their gospel of greed.
Norbert
(6,040 posts)Until O'Reilly appointed himself chief of the Christmas police.
You are so correct. It is a thinly veiled campaign to 'Make America White Again'.
Mariana
(14,858 posts)I was told in Sunday School in the 1970's that it's anti-Christian to write Xmas instead of spelling out Christmas, for example. They didn't like to hear Happy Holidays or Season's Greetings.
What O'Reilly did was make it socially acceptable for Christians to harass and berate store clerks who say, "Happy Holidays" or even if they just say "Thank you for shopping at XYZ", without any reference to holidays. I experienced this myself, working a cash register in Texas in the 1990's. Some of my Christian relatives brag about doing this.
keithbvadu2
(36,819 posts)But you have to be the 'right' kind of Christian.
Many Catholics/Protestants say the other is not a true Christian.
Billy/Franklin Graham say Catholics are not Christians.
muriel_volestrangler
(101,321 posts)The town of North Pole, Alaska, had to cancel their yearly Christmas in Ice celebration. The reason? Not enough ice.
https://tamino.wordpress.com/2019/11/22/global-warming-wages-war-on-christmas/
Takket
(21,575 posts)containing all the reasons why this "Liberty council" is full of shit
but i would just be preaching to the choir anyway....
So I'm just going to slam my head into a wall instead.
Hotler
(11,425 posts)tavernier
(12,392 posts)as it started the same time as pre Halloween, which started around the middle of August.
As a Christian it did have more meaning as I was growing up, before the Mega Mall and Walmart Superstore Explosions. I remember after church sitting around the tree on Christmas Eve with my parents and grandparents. After a meal of ham and potato salad, prepared earlier in the day, me squirming and anxious as I waited to get to the gift opening part. There were perhaps two gifts for each family member, maybe one or two more for the child. But in order to get your beautifully wrapped package, you were obligated to sing a verse of a carol, or tell a short Christmas story. Dad would dress up as Santa when I was very young.
Those Christmas Eves are burned into my memory as magical and beautiful. I dont remember any of the presents, but I still hear the laughter.
I dont think theres a war on Christmas. I just think we sometimes forget to focus on the important parts of the holiday in order to find out whats under the shiny paper wrappings.
keithbvadu2
(36,819 posts)Donald Trump Wished Everyone 'Happy Holidays' When Obama Was Saying 'Merry Christmas'
https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-barack-obama-christmas-758794
Initech
(100,080 posts)Did your little feelings get hurt because someone didn't praise Baby Jesus enough? Well guess what? There are no safe spaces in the real world. Suck it up, buttercup!
NCjack
(10,279 posts)enrich his family and himself. But, RW Xtians want to fight a war about Xmas.
maxrandb
(15,333 posts)A video of Hillary Clinton singing Silent Night would cause the Retrumplicans to stroke out.
Might even take enough of them out that partisan gerrymandering couldn't even save their pathetic party.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)This is just one more reason why I am beginning to dread it. All the magic has gone out of it for me. It's now just filled with anxiety and loathing. The commercial aspect of it is a huge part of that. As well as the bullshit "Happy Holidays" debate. I live in a large multi-cultural city and I will say "Happy Holidays" because it's the most appropriate greeting.
I can't afford it anymore and I don't want to confront my family with the fact that I simply do not want to go into more debt to give them things that they probably don't want or need and I don't want them to give me things that I don't want or need.
hunter
(38,317 posts)Half the Christians in my family believed Christmas was a bullshit pagan holiday.
Christmas was always a time of intense religious warfare in my family. Christmas wasn't good and done until people were bleeding and crying and going home angry, satisfied that God was with them, and only them.
Religious warfare was our family's favorite sport. Football was nothing.
I had just one tough grandma who wished to celebrate a typical 20th century U.S.A. Santa Claus May Company Christmas Tree Christmas, and mostly she got her way, but not without friction.
My favorite Christmas, but only in retrospect as a sexagenarian, was the Christmas morning I threw open the doors of my grandparent's camper van, yelled "Merry Christmas!" (because I was eager to open presents) and interrupted them fucking naked non-traditional Christmas grandma riding cowboy.