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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI think Sondland still in cahoots with MF45. Didn't he really thread the needle?
I think trump has decided he can't defend that they weren't holding up $$. So they are willing to admit (or defend) withholding $$ for two reasons: 1) meeting prerequisite and 2) to requesting investigation but of Burisma only. Both can be defended (albeit weakly) as ok.
Sondland was very careful to qualify his statements, not to utter the Biden word.
And the infamous phone call to trump took place on September 9th (after whistleblower known).
Isn't this just way too convenient? Why did Sondland wait SO long to get Trump's motives?
And then Trump conveniently uses Sondland's words in a presser yesterday?
Sondland throws Pompeo and others under bus (they all knew)? Helps trump so he can blame others.
But the biggest key to me is that Sondland mocked the guy who had lunch and shared a bottle of wine with him. And specifically refuted that he used the word Biden. BTW, what does that other person at lunch say about that?
In addition, Sondland changed his testimony...another sign of guilt and that he's been in this evolving story all along.
All this is way too coincidental.
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/20/20974641/trump-no-quid-pro-quo-sondland
BigmanPigman
(51,627 posts)You may be onto something.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)Doing the minimal amount of damage to Dingbat.
Did they ever explain how he managed to get a copy of SOME of his emails/texts but not others?
BigmanPigman
(51,627 posts)Are they smarter than I give them credit for?
Cosmocat
(14,572 posts)he was coached up on what he had to say to pull back on the areas he exposed himself to legal problems in his first testimony, and did revel a bit in torching some others as get back for knowing he was going to get chewed up by the conservative media, but absolutely still loves him some 45.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)Somehow remove his access to everything? Like a blank slate now with no history? They aren't turning them over...they are just hidden ?
Alliepoo
(2,225 posts)Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)Why trump picked Rudy to orchestrate all this. The truth can never come out because Rudy can always say atty client privilege. Trump will never testify truthfully nor will Rudy.
Kingofalldems
(38,476 posts)Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)What happened. I think he will not be found guilty by Senate. Do you?
mopinko
(70,215 posts)they might think that, and likely do, but yeah, no.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)I was just referring to Rudy's role in the Ukraine event. The even if the Impeachment committee could somehow drag him in, he would just declare atty/client privilege. Do you see an ultimate crime by Rudy or Trump?
mopinko
(70,215 posts)bluestarone
(17,030 posts)Sondland agreed NOT to say he heard the word Biden from tRUMPS lips. He (sondland) held back! Just my thinking.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)Guilt on his part and substantiates the theory that he's in cahoots.
Underlying all this too ..it's become evident that there was a real power struggle among all these people. And that sides and coalitions formed.
Merlot
(9,696 posts)By not directly saying what he wants, only implying and leaving the interpretation to the listener.
That trumpft did not explicitly say "Biden" does not change the intent of what trumpft wanted. Hopefully they won't get hung up on this detail.
bluestarone
(17,030 posts)Schiff will work through this! I have faith!
BuffaloJackalope
(818 posts)And Maloney saw right through it.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)that fast. When it was happening thought Sondland would win pulling that sympathy card.
Merlot
(9,696 posts)sondlands' testimony was a gift to trumpft which trumpft promptly took to the media.
LakeArenal
(28,845 posts)The whole damn mess goes way deeper than any of us common folk know.
Or ever will.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)Link to tweet
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LakeArenal
(28,845 posts)Shhhh...HES A LIAR!!!!!! Shhhh.
Im not sure anyone else knows yet!!!
LakeArenal
(28,845 posts)Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)Phones! Where is a good phone tapper/hacker when we need one?
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(13,129 posts)dewsgirl
(14,961 posts)C_U_L8R
(45,020 posts)It was clear he was there to save his own hide. Not very forthcoming or honest otherwise.