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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsClaire McCaskil on MSNBC
I hate when they have her as a commentator. She was a not a good Senator and how she landed a job as a spokesman is beyond me.
It makes me want to change the channel when she is on.
elleng
(131,107 posts)empedocles
(15,751 posts)riversedge
(70,299 posts)Kurt V.
(5,624 posts)Kurt V.
(5,624 posts)Celerity
(43,499 posts)rufus dog
(8,419 posts)As a Senator not so much. But her commentary is better than most.
Baitball Blogger
(46,757 posts)mcar
(42,372 posts)Just sayin'.
StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)She knows the players and the game and offers a very informed, clear-eyed perspective.
On Edit: And, fyi, I wasn't a huge fan of hers when she was a senator. Although I understood her need to respond to her conservative constituency, I thought she was often too cautious.
samplegirl
(11,501 posts)she voted with Republicans to many times or didnt vote at all. Something about her.... I cant stand!
Generic Brad
(14,275 posts)She did what she had to do on behalf of the state that elected her.
Kurt V.
(5,624 posts)to democrats and i canvassed for her.
redstateblues
(10,565 posts)Living in a deep red state you need to manage your expectations
Kurt V.
(5,624 posts)samplegirl
(11,501 posts)I disliked her!
xmas74
(29,676 posts)In the only way she could. I canvassed for her and my kid worked on her campaign.
At least she held regular town halls and they weren't just in KC/St Louis/Columbia/Springfield.
Kurt V.
(5,624 posts)made huge gaffes that won it for her.
pintobean
(18,101 posts)Saw the same shit with Blanche Lincoln and Mary Landrieu. Hard working women who lost their seats because they couldn't pass purity tests. All replaced by Republican men.
Kurt V.
(5,624 posts)Nothing to do with purity. smh
redstateblues
(10,565 posts)Live in a red state. She did as well as anyone could have as a Democratic Senator in a red state.
LenaBaby61
(6,977 posts)Well ....
I've lived in Southern California all of my life (I'm almost 60), and remember WELL when it was a hideous Red State where I'd read day after day about African-Americans being choked to death thanks to the choke hold. I was over at a friends house for the week who lived near downtown Watts California, and remember the Watts Riots, and the the tanks rolling through the streets, and the national guard waving rifles all over and almost threatening us to get back inside--even though I was about 4 years old. And my older siblings REALLY remember the racism, bigotry and hatred here. Remember when Racist Ray Gun was the governor who turned vets and the mentally ill out onto the streets like cattle. Both of my parents, who were an inter-racial couple (Mom African-American, Dad was Native American although police thought he was Hispanic) were pulled over and stopped many a day living here in good old California. My late Mom told me about the time her youngest brother (He was a decorated Fire Chief during the Korean War), was arrested for merely driving his Japanese wife to/through Downtown Los Angeles where she was to take her American Citizenship test in the late 1950's. She was 6 months pregnant. He was a proud man, and he didn't take racist crapola off of "racist white devils" as my late Mom said he used to say. The judge on the bench, an older white gentleman asked the policemen WHY they arrested my uncle, they couldn't answer, and he told both policemen that they should be ashamed of themselves. And is this woman his wife? You stupid, racist assholes, she's pregnant. Sir, I'm sorry, he told my uncle. My uncle told him that he was a Army Veteran of the Korean War. With everyone in the court looking in utter amazement (Just him being black with a Japanese wife was enough to get major stares from folks back then), this judge got up out of his chair, leaned over the bench, and shook my uncle's hand and thanked him for his service to our country. I too am a Vet of the 2nd World War. I was in the Air Force. Both my uncle and his wife are no longer living now, but I love them and miss them SO much.
But here we are, and it's 2019 and thankfully, California is DEEEEEP Midnight blue, and where thuglicans don't have shit to say about anything out here, and where Orange County is NO MORE Not to say that there still isn't racism here in California--there most certainly IS. And I sure as hell understand the racism in red stated or down in the deep south (My late parents both knew slaves, and both relayed many of the horrific stories they told me about that the slaves told them about which still haunt me to this day), but for what California has become, it sure wasn't always this way. That's for sure.
The NEW Orange County as of 2018/2019.
redstateblues
(10,565 posts)CA has always been on the forefront of our culture. The level of ignorance in my state is appalling and a lot of the populace like it that way
Beringia
(4,316 posts)That is the kind of comment people often use when they are prejudiced but either don't know it or won't admit it.
samplegirl
(11,501 posts)I stated that.
leftyladyfrommo
(18,870 posts)that she was in office at all considering she was a Democrat. If you are very liberal here you don't have a chance of making it.
I like Claire. I think she worked really hard for her constituents and for all Americans .
xmas74
(29,676 posts)I didn't like all of her votes but I knew I could attend a town hall and write down a question. If she had time after she would also chat.
dsp3000
(489 posts)I thought she made some good points. I have never seen her other commentary before though.
NCLefty
(3,678 posts)dem4decades
(11,304 posts)red states, might not be popular everywhere.
Kurt V.
(5,624 posts)hawley came along she got crushed.
dem4decades
(11,304 posts)Kurt V.
(5,624 posts)Didn't even make st. louis and kc a priority. she was trying to appeal to repubs here. huge mistake
dem4decades
(11,304 posts)Kurt V.
(5,624 posts)what about we the ppl of Missouri passed clean missouri act which eliminates gerry mandering, passed medical mj, defeated right to work (anti union) laws AGAIN and booted the governor. (the current one was appointed) . our current dem state auditor is running for governor. yall dont understand states like mine are being held hostage by koch money.
dem4decades
(11,304 posts)xmas74
(29,676 posts)I've volunteered on numerous campaigns.
Don't hold your breath. We may vote for progressive ideas but the GOP Kool aid is strong through most of the state.
redstateblues
(10,565 posts)Lots better than Marsha Blackburn
Kurt V.
(5,624 posts)xmas74
(29,676 posts)Why did they need to be the priority? Are those of us further out not allowed to be any kind of focus? Do we not matter?
Kurt V.
(5,624 posts)was criss crossing all over rural mo in the last months.
xmas74
(29,676 posts)She saw her often.
xmas74
(29,676 posts)Don't kid yourself. This is a shitty state.
Kurt V.
(5,624 posts)xmas74
(29,676 posts)We're gerrymandered to no end, our state employees are the worst paid in the nation, we still haven't expanded Medicaid, we're kicking tons of low income children off CHIP, we have 3 cities in the top 10 most violent in the nation (StL, KC, Springfield). Our long term care centers have a higher than national average rate of abuse, we have unpermitted open carry and the effect is now being used as a "what not to do", along with loopholes you can drive a Mac Truck through. Don't get me started on reproduction rights, race relations, etc.
We have beautiful scenery and lovely state parks, which our politicians are trying to sell off. Our test scores are low, public transportation is awful and we are losing rural hospitals left and right.
I'm involved in campaigns statewide. I know what's going on. Do we have potential? Yes, but it's buried deep and unless others are willing to help it won't be uncovered anytime soon.
I live here, I graduated from high school and college here in Missouri. My daughter is a hs grad and working on her degree here at one of our state universities. (Go Mules.) I'm in Jeff City several times while in session. To pretend it isn't corrupt and to defend it is to refuse to see the truth. It's a set up for disaster.
Btw, RtW is going to be reintroduced again and again. The only way to stop it is to either vote those assholes out or change our state constitution. Changing the constitution would be easier.
Kurt V.
(5,624 posts)xmas74
(29,676 posts)Big game Saturday against Ferris State. Bolles is considered one of the best QB in Division II right now but Ferris is solid everywhere and every position.
Kurt V.
(5,624 posts)xmas74
(29,676 posts)We expect them to go far and we expect women's bowling to tear them up. Football? Not the norm.
Saturday is a big day. Game's streaming on Facebook if you want something in the background.
brooklynite
(94,727 posts)She's a mainstream Democrat who got elected twice in a swing State. Are you uncomfortable with opinions that disagree with yours?
BannonsLiver
(16,448 posts)Sometimes its okay when not everyone parrots your inner monologue.
obnoxiousdrunk
(2,910 posts)beachbumbob
(9,263 posts)She represented Missouri pretty well
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,836 posts)SKKY
(11,821 posts)Joe was brutal when he started on Morning Joe. Hes obviously gotten a lot better.
JoeOtterbein
(7,702 posts)Kahuna7
(2,531 posts)UniteFightBack
(8,231 posts)EveHammond13
(2,855 posts)Ilsa
(61,698 posts)Not only does she understand Congress, but she knows the law as a former prosecutor. She can make some pithy comments, too.
Greybnk48
(10,176 posts)And i think she brings insight to what's going on that's valuable and interesting.
xmas74
(29,676 posts)She was my senator.
I didn't agree with all of her votes but I found her to be intelligent and overall interested in what others were saying.
Cracklin Charlie
(12,904 posts)Disclaimer: she was my senator.
I think she is a great commentator during the impeachment hearings, bringing insight to many aspects of the process.
And, ps, she Was a good senator, and the republicans had to use pretty much everything they had left to defeat her.
Our great loss.
xmas74
(29,676 posts)Most outside of Missouri don't understand how close Hawley/Greitens and the claims of dark money still are. Hawley was supposed to investigate the claims but refused, as does our current AG.
(And if you're looking for a great AG candidate in 2020 check our Elad Gross. I really need to make a post about him. If he wins it could change the secrecy behind dark money nationwide.)
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)Always disliked her Dino version. She offers interesting insights and she doesn't brown nose
Demsrule86
(68,667 posts)senate majority next year because of people like her losing...
samplegirl
(11,501 posts)for some very crucial voting issues.
Demsrule86
(68,667 posts)important stuff and should be allowed not to vote for stuff that will surely fail or for stuff where their vote is not needed...she would have helped us get a majority and without more like her, we will never have a senate majority...and never nominate a judge again. Sot think about that...politics is not pure and we can't win the Senate without red state senators.
pecosbob
(7,543 posts)Who better than a conservaDem?
DFW
(54,436 posts)I had a long talk with her during the 2012 campaign. She admitted flat out that it was a race she was certain to lose until her idiot opponent invented the term "legitimate rape," and then said a woman's body could shut down becoming pregnant from such an assault.
She had no illusions, and knew her next opponent wouldn't make the same stupid mistake, and that her time in the Senate was done after 2018. She knew her state. I knew many of her votes wouldn't be what I wanted, but I liked her plenty.
For fun, I once asked her to give California Peggy a call, but Peggy hung up on her because she didn't believe a U.S. Senator would be calling her out of the blue (my fault for not warning her, but I wanted it to be a surprise).
Happier days--at her office on Jan. 3, 2013, celebrating her swearing in for her new term:
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As for me, I didn't fare too well that afternoon!
https://upload.democraticunderground.com/1251271622
xmas74
(29,676 posts)I've been to smaller fundraisers in state, numerous town halls where I promised to no treat her like I treated Vicky Hartzler at her exactly 2 town halls. I've caught her in various parade line ups and have asked questions,which she answered. Is she perfect? No, but far better than Blunt and Hawley.