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Sondland throws the Con and noun/verb/9/11 under the bus (Original Post) malaise Nov 2019 OP
He even confirmed the cell phone call with Trump PA Democrat Nov 2019 #1
Happiness is malaise Nov 2019 #2
Oh, happy day! Kid Berwyn Nov 2019 #36
Pence too. tavernier Nov 2019 #53
That would be nice, but maybe receive the results sitting down. Hortensis Nov 2019 #75
The MF has already set the stage MontanaMama Nov 2019 #62
Which do you think he thinks is worse malaise Nov 2019 #73
Depends! MontanaMama Nov 2019 #76
Maybe not laughing maniacally. ChazInAz Nov 2019 #87
This is going to be good. Zoonart Nov 2019 #3
I know his wife was not going to take it malaise Nov 2019 #8
I LIKE IT! Zoonart Nov 2019 #9
His wife? cilla4progress Nov 2019 #66
I have heard and seen discussions that the wife has told him to come clean malaise Nov 2019 #70
So funny, malaise, cilla4progress Nov 2019 #74
I'm hearing this too! Mike 03 Nov 2019 #4
Everything he did was ordered by the president. PA Democrat Nov 2019 #5
If Tweets could kill they probably will lagomorph777 Nov 2019 #43
Lol FrankBooth Nov 2019 #68
Yup!! MF45 is so fucked! DippyDem Nov 2019 #6
And once again, Speaker Pelosi was right... 2naSalit Nov 2019 #7
She also knew he'd impeach himelf malaise Nov 2019 #11
What a sweet way to start the day. 2naSalit Nov 2019 #26
Drizzle Drazzle Drozzle Drome leftieNanner Nov 2019 #44
+1 Gidney N Cloyd Nov 2019 #59
When you have him down The Wizard Nov 2019 #33
Keep walking malaise Nov 2019 #35
It ain't over till the polls say it's over. Not there yet. KPN Nov 2019 #46
It's not over until it translates to a Trump loss in 2020. TwilightZone Nov 2019 #57
Unfortunately, yes. I agree with all you said. KPN Nov 2019 #91
Until the elections kick Repubs out of power. Hortensis Nov 2019 #80
Isn't Mercury coming out of retrograde now? MontanaMama Nov 2019 #63
You're gonna love this 2naSalit Nov 2019 #69
Holy hell. MontanaMama Nov 2019 #77
Yes it does. 2naSalit Nov 2019 #79
And pence and Pompeo. he's going to destroy them shortly. NightWatcher Nov 2019 #10
Sadly I have to be on the road from 10.45 to about noon malaise Nov 2019 #13
Sounds like POMPEO IS DONE too. Mike 03 Nov 2019 #12
Yep malaise Nov 2019 #16
Enjoy the morning! Mike 03 Nov 2019 #20
Yes, because while we can. Because there's tomorrow. Hortensis Nov 2019 #82
Hope so....nt 2naSalit Nov 2019 #47
Kansas. Mars and Minerva Nov 2019 #51
Get ready for 2naSalit Nov 2019 #14
"Jawohl, mein Fuhrer!" BuffaloJackalope Nov 2019 #15
Looking forward to the Wednesday Morning Massacre. Mike 03 Nov 2019 #17
THIS malaise Nov 2019 #19
Let's hope, because it'll take more than this confirmation Hortensis Nov 2019 #83
What are you hearing and where? UpInArms Nov 2019 #18
Breaking on M$NBComcast malaise Nov 2019 #23
Thank you! UpInArms Nov 2019 #25
Opening statement malaise Nov 2019 #32
Wow!!! EOM TruckFump Nov 2019 #52
We should start calling him Gordon "the Bull" Sondland! Dennis Donovan Nov 2019 #21
We need to call his wife malaise Nov 2019 #24
I am sure the word mother is being used in the WH exboyfil Nov 2019 #28
You win the thread malaise Nov 2019 #29
HOLY COW!!!!!!! Peacetrain Nov 2019 #22
So this is it eleny Nov 2019 #27
He now is the "Bus Driver" and he is heading straight for Trump. ashredux Nov 2019 #30
Looks that way malaise Nov 2019 #31
So Trump had a psychotic breakdown over the weekend when he found out about this? Chakaconcarne Nov 2019 #34
Makes sense malaise Nov 2019 #37
fireworks!! hkp11 Nov 2019 #38
Happy Birthday VP Biden . . . . Iliyah Nov 2019 #39
Hell of a present isn't it!! Peacetrain Nov 2019 #40
Bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah malaise Nov 2019 #41
Monster Bus! tanyev Nov 2019 #42
Front wheel just hit Pompeo and the Con malaise Nov 2019 #45
Giuliani now being squished UpInArms Nov 2019 #48
Enough room for Pence? grantcart Nov 2019 #72
Any way Barr can be under a huge tire? OneGrassRoot Nov 2019 #49
"We were just following orders" has not worked very well for people in the past bitterross Nov 2019 #50
The "Nuremberg Defense." And we know how that turned out. We hung 'em. WheelWalker Nov 2019 #61
Not so much... he's claiming Hill and Bolton were IndyOp Nov 2019 #54
K&R...👍🏼 spanone Nov 2019 #55
Wish I was a fly on 45's wall right now. Woodwizard Nov 2019 #56
The craziest and almost more incredible thing is: Ligyron Nov 2019 #58
Yep malaise Nov 2019 #60
This is awesome! His wife must have given him the R B Garr Nov 2019 #64
With the Gang that Couldn't Shoot Straight, it's a undoubtedly a very short bus pecosbob Nov 2019 #65
I bet the Con is going to have another "spur of the moment" physical after this Dopers_Greed Nov 2019 #67
Happy Happy Joy Joy Can't wait tazmaniac Nov 2019 #71
Just heard him say DarleenMB Nov 2019 #78
"Barely knew the guy" Cuthbert Allgood Nov 2019 #81
Never Trumper ain't gonna work. dchill Nov 2019 #86
About 30% of the population will eat whatever shit sandwich Trump gives them. Cuthbert Allgood Nov 2019 #94
He will be gone come inauguration day Jan 2021 at the latest vlyons Nov 2019 #84
There is a difference...... the_sly_pig Nov 2019 #85
HOLY SHIT! Yay!!!!! I just read this now!!! Javaman Nov 2019 #88
This is like a blue-print to the collective madness! Sugar Smack Nov 2019 #89
Remember this folks, gab13by13 Nov 2019 #90
Some of the posts here are fantastic matt819 Nov 2019 #92
Is there a link to the video of Sondland's opening statement? My gods this is wonderful... Hekate Nov 2019 #93

MontanaMama

(23,336 posts)
62. The MF has already set the stage
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 11:07 AM
Nov 2019

for resignation for health reasons...can’t imagine his ego would allow it but the groundwork has been laid.

malaise

(269,157 posts)
73. Which do you think he thinks is worse
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 11:30 AM
Nov 2019

Poor health resignation or impeachment - those are his options

MontanaMama

(23,336 posts)
76. Depends!
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 11:34 AM
Nov 2019

What a shitty choice! Either way the SDNY is laughing maniacally in the corner waiting for him to leave office.

Zoonart

(11,875 posts)
3. This is going to be good.
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 09:57 AM
Nov 2019

I knew this guy Sondland was not going to go to the wall for the con. His lawyers probably showed him some pics of Leavenworth.

malaise

(269,157 posts)
8. I know his wife was not going to take it
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 09:59 AM
Nov 2019

We have a proverb here - showoff bring disgrace. Ah well! They are all fucked.

malaise

(269,157 posts)
70. I have heard and seen discussions that the wife has told him to come clean
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 11:25 AM
Nov 2019

She has no plan of losing everything.

Addtionally it is said that she is a registered Dem
https://heavy.com/news/2019/11/gordon-sondland-wife-katherine-durant/

cilla4progress

(24,760 posts)
74. So funny, malaise,
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 11:32 AM
Nov 2019

This is exactly what crossed my mind when I saw he was telling all. That someone close to him convinced him to come clean. That his other choice was not viable,

Thanks, malaise, this guy is a piece of work!

PA Democrat

(13,225 posts)
5. Everything he did was ordered by the president.
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 09:57 AM
Nov 2019

YIKES! Trump is probably reaching for his cell phone as I type. Watch out Gordon!

2naSalit

(86,764 posts)
7. And once again, Speaker Pelosi was right...
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 09:58 AM
Nov 2019

Last edited Wed Nov 20, 2019, 10:42 AM - Edit history (1)

this will be wrapped up by Thanksgiving. I love her for her timing.

Here we go. It's OVER for this crowd!

I think I'll look to see what's going on in the cosmos! I think Mercury is about to shift gears.


2naSalit

(86,764 posts)
26. What a sweet way to start the day.
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 10:07 AM
Nov 2019

Sondland, as many of these clowns, is in waaaay over his head and now he's wailing for Mr. Wizzard to bail him out.

The Wizard

(12,546 posts)
33. When you have him down
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 10:16 AM
Nov 2019

put your heel on his neck and rotate. And when he tries to get up, kick him. The scoundrel has it coming. The cartel must be crushed.

KPN

(15,649 posts)
46. It ain't over till the polls say it's over. Not there yet.
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 10:42 AM
Nov 2019

We have the party of “no laws when it meets our ends” to contend with. Only the public will influence them — not proof, evidence, law or reason. The Ukraine bribery was “not unusual”, “not inappropriate” and “not an impeachable act” according to their universe so far in these hearings. They will deny truth and the facts until the public demands otherwise. And the M$M isn’t helping with this so far imo.

TwilightZone

(25,473 posts)
57. It's not over until it translates to a Trump loss in 2020.
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 10:56 AM
Nov 2019

Plenty of people disapproved of him in 2016 and still voted for him.

There's little reason to believe the same won't happen in 2020, but preferably in significantly smaller numbers this time, especially in swing states.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
80. Until the elections kick Repubs out of power.
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 11:40 AM
Nov 2019

Not just Trump. He's an explosive symptom of what's been happening for a long time.

All the big state and national leaders have become intensely corrupt and determined to overset the ability of the people to take their power. Most seem to be vastly underestimating the depth of their betrayal and just how far along it is. That's what nice people do when faced with something so bad they can't believe it.

MontanaMama

(23,336 posts)
63. Isn't Mercury coming out of retrograde now?
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 11:10 AM
Nov 2019

Feels like something is about to give...breathing deeply here.

2naSalit

(86,764 posts)
69. You're gonna love this
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 11:22 AM
Nov 2019

According to The Great Bear astrology and the Kosmic Calendar:

Wed Nov 20 Challenging and constructive sky configurations vie for supremacy as
Mercury makes the key cosmic headline by halting its three-week reversal and making a direct station at 12 degrees of Scorpio (11:15am). Putting you on the defensive are a square between Ceres and Chiron (6:18am), a tense, 135-degree link between Mars and Neptune (9:58am), plus the monthly polarity between the Moon in Virgo and Neptune in Pisces (8:52pm). This trio of celestial naysayers battle against a revelation-generating grand triangle composed of the Moon trine to Uranus in Taurus (12:13am) and Saturn in Capricorn (10:44pm). Focus attention on the following themes associated with the Messenger of the Gods planet to stay above the fray – communications, learning and primary education, words and language, transportation and travel plans, business and trade, messages and paper work, health and medical concerns, the five senses, air and breathing, wind and temperature changes. Since Mercury, like every celestial body, has a shadow side, don’t let down your guard concerning signings and agreements as Mercury is fundamentally motionless all of today and can influence earth dwellers positively or negatively. (Mercury will remain in direct motion until it begins a new retrograde cycle in Pisces on February 16, 2020.) [Note to readers: All times are calculated for Pacific Standard Time. Be sure to adjust all times according to your own local time so the alignments noted above will be exact for your location.]



2naSalit

(86,764 posts)
79. Yes it does.
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 11:39 AM
Nov 2019

With Saturn and Neptune active...

Saturn, in this case, represents time-keeping in the cosmic sense, like karma. Neptune is the subconscious state which seems to mean, here, that soul-searching and truth-seeking is a theme for a day or two. With Mercury in this flux state, all inner personal things and communications are at the fore. What a perfect day for this! More events in the next few days are also significant, we can win this bigly.

malaise

(269,157 posts)
16. Yep
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 10:03 AM
Nov 2019

I knew that Sondland's wife was not going to take it. He's a show pony for whom I have no sympathy.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
83. Let's hope, because it'll take more than this confirmation
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 11:45 AM
Nov 2019

of what people already know but so far don't believe is bad enough to remove him for. We need more, and hopefully we're still in the beginning of a cascade of shockers that'll convince McConnell his own power can only be saved by dumping Trump. And keeping Pence, though I pray it ruins him also.

Sorry to be a downer, but I'm afraid post-impeachment the most powerful man on the planet will be convinced of his invincibility, terrified, and raging and vengeful all at once. Best to be prepared in case.

UpInArms

(51,284 posts)
18. What are you hearing and where?
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 10:03 AM
Nov 2019

The hearing hasn’t started yet ...

And my curiosity is killing my cat!

malaise

(269,157 posts)
23. Breaking on M$NBComcast
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 10:05 AM
Nov 2019

Sondland to implicate the Con and Pompeo - Sondland has entered the room

ashredux

(2,608 posts)
30. He now is the "Bus Driver" and he is heading straight for Trump.
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 10:14 AM
Nov 2019

He is going to tell all.....He now is the “Bus Driver” and he is heading straight for Trump.
 

bitterross

(4,066 posts)
50. "We were just following orders" has not worked very well for people in the past
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 10:48 AM
Nov 2019

People seem to forget that's not a viable defense. It's more of a hanging offense - as history shows.

IndyOp

(15,535 posts)
54. Not so much... he's claiming Hill and Bolton were
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 10:55 AM
Nov 2019

not accurate in their description of the meeting that Bolton ended abruptly.

Ligyron

(7,639 posts)
58. The craziest and almost more incredible thing is:
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 10:58 AM
Nov 2019

After no doubt being informed in no uncertain terms by WH legal, etc, that this is an illegal act, the idiot goes out into the driveway and commits basically the same illegal act yet again!!

R B Garr

(16,973 posts)
64. This is awesome! His wife must have given him the
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 11:11 AM
Nov 2019

business. It was reported, I think on Morning Joe, that his wife reminded him of some priorities, lol.

DarleenMB

(408 posts)
78. Just heard him say
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 11:37 AM
Nov 2019

that he talked to Trump briefly asking WHAT did he (Trump) want and ... wait for it. Sondland says that Trump said "nothing. NO quid pro quo NOTHING."

Who thinks Sondland is lying? Anyone?

Cuthbert Allgood

(4,957 posts)
94. About 30% of the population will eat whatever shit sandwich Trump gives them.
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 02:59 PM
Nov 2019

But, hopefully that gets a little smaller today.

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
84. He will be gone come inauguration day Jan 2021 at the latest
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 11:50 AM
Nov 2019

He won't resign. The senate will probably not convict him, unless Moscow Mitch determines that his leadership and/or re-election is in jeopardy. Which leaves Trump losing the general election, assuming he gets the nomination, which is not certain.

Trump lives in a constant state of denial, lies, and delusions of grandeur. He probably tells himself that he will survive senate conviction and be re-elected. But 35% of voters ain't enough to get re-elected.

I just hope that after his defeat that the next administration and/or the state of NY indicts him for some serious crimes. His tax returns will beb public by then. So obstruction of justice, tax fraud, bank fraud, wire fraud, insurance fraud will be what he faces. He'll have to sell off some of his properties, because the Russians ain't gonna fund him anymore. They will discard him as the piece of trash he is.

the_sly_pig

(741 posts)
85. There is a difference......
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 11:50 AM
Nov 2019

Between testifying for courage and honor, and testifying for self preservation. Mr. Sondland is doing the latter. Lt. Colonel Vindman is an example of the former.

I believe the difference is crucial. F Sondland.

gab13by13

(21,385 posts)
90. Remember this folks,
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 12:24 PM
Nov 2019

Trump didn't just say, talk to Rudy, he said talk to Barr. We need to impeach Barr, he is going to come out with fake news soon.

Hekate

(90,772 posts)
93. Is there a link to the video of Sondland's opening statement? My gods this is wonderful...
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 01:09 PM
Nov 2019

At the moment all I have on my tv machine is Castro loudly whining -- oh wait, Schiff is on, I can un-mute it.

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