Sondland/David Holmes. To save his own hide, Sondland will say that Holmes

[patricia92243]

Holmes is lying. it will be a case of he said vs he said.

There were other witnesses. They need to come forward to backup David Holmes.

[jberryhill]

1. They'll have the other witnesses on record before Sondland testifies

They’ll also have an electronic record of the call.

Nobody makes a phone call from Kiev to the president’s personal cell phone without there being a record of such a call having been made.

[mucifer]

7. he won't give up the tapes

[jberryhill]

11. I don't mean tapes

[patricia92243]

9. Would they be able to get a copy of the electronic record. Trump is not going

to cooperate.

[jberryhill]

12. It's a normal civilian phone call

They have subpoenaed the billing records from the provider already.

Trump has nothing to do with the billing records for Sondland’s personal cell phone.

[DeminPennswoods]

31. If Sondland used a credit card, there'll be a transaction for that, too

There may even be the restaurant's own transaction of the meal.

[mucifer]

28. But, that wouldn't prove what was said on the call

[jberryhill]

29. If there was, say, a three minute call

And two people have testified to what happened during that call...

Then Sondland is going to have to have a somewhat interesting description of what transpired during that call.

[MontanaMama]

2. I seriously wonder if Sondland

will even make it until next week to testify. He doesn’t seem like the sharpest tool in the shed...I can’t imagine he won’t implode beforehand OR, universe forbid, get Epsteined. He is a liability at this point.

[2naSalit]

10. Yeah, he needs to just stay in the house until Wed....nt

[Marie Marie]

3. Sondland will sing like a canary. He is in way over his head and not cut out for

the consequences of being a criminal for Trump. He thought he could buy a cushy appointment from Trump and I'd bet he is sorry he ever got involved with Trump. JMHO.

[emulatorloo]

6. +1

[patricia92243]

13. He has had to learn the hard way "That everything Trump touches turns to shit."

[Bev54]

21. No doubt

I am sure his wife will give him a swift kick in the ass to get out there and tell the truth, she doesn't want to lose all their money to lawyers.

[Blue_true]

22. I tend to agree. He changed his testimony once information came out that

indicated he was trying to lie in his first session. With one person having heard his conversation, another in the wing saying the same thing and still others at the table when the call happened, Sondland likely won't try to set up him versus Holmes, Sondland is going to save his ass and role like a baby that has shat his or her diaper.

[crickets]

39. Agreed. He rolled over just in time.

Po' thing was first out of the gate and hadn't read the room correctly. When he realized all of the other witnesses were going to give honest testimony, he started 'correcting' himself. He's still in trouble, but he seems to realize he can minimize his problems by not lying for the prez.

Chirp.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

4. Sondland had better not do any more lying.

He's already in very deep shit. There were other witnesses to this conversation, so he can't pretend the conversation didn't happen. He could try to say he doesn't remember, but that's lame.

[jberryhill]

14. Sondland has reverse Alzheimer's

His memory gets better every day.

[Marie Marie]

20. Good one.

[Bev54]

23. Maybe they can use him in a commercial

for one of those memory improvement pills

[tavernier]

35. Stealing that.

A nice dessert joke at Thanksgiving dinner.

[Solomon]

37. Sondland gave birth to the term "unlie"

[emulatorloo]

5. Seriously doubt Sondland is willing to go to jail for Donald Trump

[drray23]

8. I don't think he will.

I'm pretty sure he is going to fold. He got caught once into lying for trump and had to correct his previous testimony. Today, he must have seen stone being convicted for lying to congress.

He is a rich man with a hotel empire. He is not going down for Trump. He is going to cash his chips and resign, stop playing ambassador.

There are as already reports that his family, his wife in particular is concerned about the effect of his shenanigans on the family business. Sondland thought it would be fun to play ambassador. But if it comes to saving Trump or himself, I don't think he will go for Trump.

[uriel1972]

15. Loyalty, responsibility and veracity...

Three words not used to describe Trump and his mob. Each of them is out for themselves and all they can get.

[MFGsunny]

16. Sondland knows enough to listen to his lawyer - he's already shown that much.

And his lawyer now FOR SURE KNOWS Sondland screwed the pooch. AND he's gotta try to do yet another mulligan!

THAT will be 2 strikes (mixing metaphors). After another SNAFU ............

Hard to enjoy being a hotelier SUB-magnet from prison where orange is the new Armani.

[Pantagruel]

17. Russians surely

taped the call.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

18. Sondland is Exhibit A for the proposition that people shouldn't be able to

buy ambassadorships. It's been sort of an unfortunate practice for years, but usually the ambassadorships that can be purchased are for small, pleasant, harmless tropical countries where the ambassador can host embassy parties and pretend to be a character in a Graham Greene novel while not doing anything significant at all. In this case, though, this numpty Sondland bought himself a really important ambassadorship for which he was galactically unqualified, and promptly proceeded to fuck it up. What he really got for his million bucks was a shit-ton of trouble.

[Skittles]

19. AGREED

[Blue_true]

24. I know people don't like W, but he wasn't remotely the criminal that Trump is.

Not even Nixon, Harding or Reagan come close to Trump's criminality, Trump is an immoral, soulless fuck.

[dawg day]

25. Maybe he will just plead the 5th

But I think he has to correct his wrong testimony... or he's up for perjury.

[exboyfil]

26. I know it is separate sessions but doesn't he

fall under the requirement to continue testifying once he has started answering questions on a particular subject.

[Kablooie]

27. Wouldn't it be nice if Trump threatened Sondland not to turn...

And Sondland reports it in his testimony.

[samnsara]

30. i dont think he will say the phone call didnt take place...

...he will save his ass and sing...and just blame it on memory issues. Can you just hear his wife/partner at home giving him the ol' what for? This guy does NOT want to go to jail.

[patricia92243]

36. He needs to get a note from his doctor saying he has beginning dementia and

cannot remember certain things until he is reminded and then he will cooperate in every way blah, blah, blah.

[DeminPennswoods]

32. Former Amb Wendy Sherman was on

one of the MSNBC shows last evening. She addressed the Holmes' statement that he didn't take notes, something the Rs will surely use to attack his credibility. She said FSO's and particularly political affairs counsels like Holmes are speficially trained how to remember conversations because they are sometimes in situations where they can't take notes and must rely on their memory of what was said by whom.

Also one the witnesses was Sondland's "minder" while he was there, meaning this person accompanied him everywhere. I just wonder what they talked about when travelling from place to place. Sondland's in over his head, but he seems like a friendly, chatty guy who would strike up a conversation easily enough.

[Jim__]

33. I doubt he will say Holmes is lying.

He may say he doesn't recall exactly what was said on the call, or he doesn't remember the conversation the same way Holmes does. Explicitly lying at this point would not be very bright on his part.

[Johnny2X2X]

34. Another person at the table has come forward

This person is already going to testify.

[patricia92243]

38. Hadn't heard that. It should be ok then.