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kpete

(71,991 posts)
Wed Oct 30, 2019, 04:08 PM Oct 2019

It's hard to explain just how comprehensively Trump is lying about the Ukraine scandal.

He's being dishonest about basically every individual component of the story:


His deception last week was focused on his conduct toward Ukraine and Democrats' related impeachment inquiry. Deep breath now:

He falsely claimed he had released an exact transcript of his July phone call with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky. He falsely claimed he did not ask Zelensky for anything on the call. He falsely claimed people aren't talking about the call anymore.

He falsely claimed the whistleblower complaint about the call was "totally wrong." He falsely claimed the whistleblower alleged he had made seven or eight mentions of a "quid pro quo." He falsely claimed the whistleblower has vanished. He falsely claimed Democratic Rep. Adam Schiff was the whistleblower's source.

He falsely claimed Schiff had spoken about the call at a committee hearing before, not after, the release of the rough transcript. He falsely claimed Schiff's committee comments were illegal. He falsely claimed Republicans aren't allowed to ask questions in Democrats' impeachment inquiry hearings. And he falsely claimed those closed-door hearings are unprecedented.



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It's hard to explain just how comprehensively Trump is lying about the Ukraine scandal. (Original Post) kpete Oct 2019 OP
Another day, Another lie... pbmus Oct 2019 #1
This is the danger he poses. We are just not programmed to anticipate and guard against liars Atticus Oct 2019 #2
so this is TrumPutin "perfect"? Hermit-The-Prog Oct 2019 #3
This message was self-deleted by its author moondust Oct 2019 #4
LOL @ the top 2 replies! NCLefty Nov 2019 #5

Atticus

(15,124 posts)
2. This is the danger he poses. We are just not programmed to anticipate and guard against liars
Thu Oct 31, 2019, 04:00 PM
Oct 2019

who can look you in the eye and swear that the sky is orange, grass is purple and ice forms when water reaches 47 degrees Fahrenheit. Our "Huh? I must have misheard that" reflex kicks in and does it's best to persuade us that "He didn't REALLY say that!"

But, with Trump, yes he DID just tell another stupid, obvious, self-serving lie. To save time and emotional stress, here's a tip: every damn thing that Trump says or tweets is intended to deceive---PERIOD.

Response to kpete (Original post)

NCLefty

(3,678 posts)
5. LOL @ the top 2 replies!
Fri Nov 1, 2019, 02:11 AM
Nov 2019

@UROCKlive1: "Is there any evidence he's told the truth about anything ever?"

@HershelsKid: "He once said he'd like to date his daughter."

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