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ProudMNDemocrat

(16,785 posts)
Wed Oct 30, 2019, 01:55 PM Oct 2019

Donald Trump calls this man....a "Never Trumper" and "Human scum".............

Just when you thought Donald Trump could sink no lower, he calls this HIGHLY decorated Active Duty Army Lt. Colonel a "never Trumper", which translates into "human scum".

Those of you who served at DU and wore the Uniform of the US military, let that sink in. For this is what Trump thinks of this Patriot , Col. Alexander Vindman.


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Donald Trump calls this man....a "Never Trumper" and "Human scum"............. (Original Post) ProudMNDemocrat Oct 2019 OP
A uniform doesn't make someone a decent person jberryhill Oct 2019 #1
So true. Oliver North disgraced the uniform for his behavior in Iran/Contra.. ProudMNDemocrat Oct 2019 #2
So are you saying that grumpyduck Oct 2019 #3
That appears to be your interpretation of what he wrote, not what was his point. TheBlackAdder Oct 2019 #4
Da Fuq? jberryhill Oct 2019 #6
Is that convicted felon Oliver North? guillaumeb Oct 2019 #5
Indeed, and released on a procedural error jberryhill Oct 2019 #9
If he were truly a "never Trumper" I seriously doubt ... WePurrsevere Oct 2019 #7
Two generals... Flynn & Arnold keithbvadu2 Oct 2019 #8
An interesting conversation... EndlessWire Oct 2019 #10
 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
1. A uniform doesn't make someone a decent person
Wed Oct 30, 2019, 02:00 PM
Oct 2019

Vindman is, no doubt, an honorable person.

But this notion that being a decorated Lt. Col. makes one above reproach is nonsense.

You want to see some scum? Try this douchebag:



Or are you trying to say that Oliver North was some kind of patriot?

Please don't confuse a uniform with integrity.

ProudMNDemocrat

(16,785 posts)
2. So true. Oliver North disgraced the uniform for his behavior in Iran/Contra..
Wed Oct 30, 2019, 02:04 PM
Oct 2019

The time we are living in says a lot about Trump and those who support him.

grumpyduck

(6,235 posts)
3. So are you saying that
Wed Oct 30, 2019, 02:05 PM
Oct 2019

it's okay to dump on somebody without any proof besides you don't like what they said?

TheBlackAdder

(28,201 posts)
4. That appears to be your interpretation of what he wrote, not what was his point.
Wed Oct 30, 2019, 02:12 PM
Oct 2019

.

There's no need to further elaborate on the obvious.

.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
6. Da Fuq?
Wed Oct 30, 2019, 02:19 PM
Oct 2019

No.

I'm saying that a uniform does not make a person a truth-teller, and that any person's integrity needs to be considered on its own merits.

The OP suggests that anyone who is a decorated Lt. Col. is somehow automatically a paragon of integrity.

Not only is that not true, but it is dangerous.

I have no doubt that Lt. Col. Vindman is telling the truth and is unimpeachable. It is not, however, because he wears a uniform with pieces of metal on it.

In fact, if you had bothered to read the first line of my post, that would be clear to you.
 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
9. Indeed, and released on a procedural error
Wed Oct 30, 2019, 03:36 PM
Oct 2019

I am not intended to make a comparison between the two men, but the uniforms and decorations don't care who is wearing them.

WePurrsevere

(24,259 posts)
7. If he were truly a "never Trumper" I seriously doubt ...
Wed Oct 30, 2019, 02:22 PM
Oct 2019

that this officer would have been in a position to overhear Trump's phone call so clearly.

This crap is Trump lying and deflecting as always and NOT how an innocent person behaves.

keithbvadu2

(36,806 posts)
8. Two generals... Flynn & Arnold
Wed Oct 30, 2019, 02:30 PM
Oct 2019

Two generals... Flynn & Arnold

Gen Michael Flynn and Gen Benedict Arnold both started out as patriots who served their country well.

Arnold died a traitor in England.

He was not lucky enough to have a Donald Trump on his side.

EndlessWire

(6,531 posts)
10. An interesting conversation...
Wed Oct 30, 2019, 07:51 PM
Oct 2019

We all know why Bone Spurs said that: anyone who speaks against him is called names and smeared. And, any reasonable person can say that the uniform does not make the man. However, the uniform is a symbol of someone that can be thrown into conflict to protect others. I was always taught that while perhaps you don't respect the person wearing the uniform, the uniform still deserves respect.

Be that as it may, tRump is not. my. President. (Hillary is,) and I so thoroughly loathe him that I could never salute him. Those guys who stand at attention while having to salute his flabby ass must be thinking private thoughts. I think this outburst helps us, because we fear the military response if tRump decides to take over in martial law and subjugate us like his fellow tyrants and dictators. He is not our "Dear Leader," as Kim prefers to be called, but a brutal, ruthless p***k who will push the boundaries of decency as far as he can go. Next step: executing his enemies.

The more medals on his chest he has, the better I like the way Vindman wears his uniform. It must piss Trump off to see that guy, bravely telling the...gulp...truth...

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