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Siwsan

(26,262 posts)
Wed Oct 30, 2019, 10:18 AM Oct 2019

If we pull off a 'trifecta', next year, will the GOP reform, or double (or more) down?

Losing the White House, Senate, and the House remaining under Democratic control would send a message to rational, sane people. I'm not sure this will be the case with the GOP.

But, the truth be told, more than wondering about them, I worry about their cult and what their reaction could be. The very people who should be responsible enough to plea, to them, for peace and calm are the very ones who might just stir things up, even more.

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If we pull off a 'trifecta', next year, will the GOP reform, or double (or more) down? (Original Post) Siwsan Oct 2019 OP
The problem will be Trump and his minions. redstatebluegirl Oct 2019 #1
The SDNY and the NY prosecutors will have their say. n/t Eyeball_Kid Oct 2019 #2
Hopefully trump* will be preoccupied with massive legal entanglements Siwsan Oct 2019 #3
Of course they will double down TheRealNorth Oct 2019 #4
I think once the Trump trainwreck is complete jcgoldie Oct 2019 #5
I'd say double down sandensea Oct 2019 #6
Did they reform after the 2006 & 2008 loses? inwiththenew Oct 2019 #7
If we win all 3, use it to cement Democracy in place Johnny2X2X Oct 2019 #8
Double down. zaj Oct 2019 #9
The only thing that will make them reform is sustained complete loss JHB Oct 2019 #10
Obstruction all the way Bayard Oct 2019 #11
I expect them to change about as much as i expect the sun to come up in the west. The Genealogist Oct 2019 #12

redstatebluegirl

(12,265 posts)
1. The problem will be Trump and his minions.
Wed Oct 30, 2019, 10:23 AM
Oct 2019

Trump will not go away until he succumbs to old age, and as they say only the good die young.

Siwsan

(26,262 posts)
3. Hopefully trump* will be preoccupied with massive legal entanglements
Wed Oct 30, 2019, 10:28 AM
Oct 2019

But his minions - yea - I really worry about them. I have several cousins, in that category, but am in touch with only one. The disconnect with reality that we see in him is pretty alarming. He's retired, in his 70's, and spends all of his time either watching Fox "news" or sitting at the library, monopolizing one of their computers so he can gather even more disinformation.

TheRealNorth

(9,481 posts)
4. Of course they will double down
Wed Oct 30, 2019, 10:31 AM
Oct 2019

The Republican base doesn't operate on logic, it operates on emotion (fear, faith, greed, and hate).

jcgoldie

(11,631 posts)
5. I think once the Trump trainwreck is complete
Wed Oct 30, 2019, 10:34 AM
Oct 2019

They will try to recoup some actual conservative ideas besides 24/7 blatant racism. They seemed to do much better over the past 30 years since uncle Ronnie when they kept their racism in dog whistle form.

inwiththenew

(972 posts)
7. Did they reform after the 2006 & 2008 loses?
Wed Oct 30, 2019, 10:36 AM
Oct 2019

I'd argue they came back worse than ever with all the Tea Party bs in 2010.

Johnny2X2X

(19,066 posts)
8. If we win all 3, use it to cement Democracy in place
Wed Oct 30, 2019, 10:38 AM
Oct 2019

Do what the Reps would do except in favor of Democracy not against it. Ram through legislation that protects voting rights, that mitigates campaign finance, and that guarantees free elections.

That's what's at the heart of the GOP, the voters no longer like their ideas, so instead of coming up with new ideas they decided to get rid of Democracy. Dems should take away that option for them altogether, and then they can either bend to the will of the people or go extinct.

 

zaj

(3,433 posts)
9. Double down.
Wed Oct 30, 2019, 10:39 AM
Oct 2019

They needed to reform in 2012, but they doubled down then. The wealthy need the average GOP voter to have energy. Refrorm saps that. So more right wing propaganda designed to stoke misguided but potent outrage.

JHB

(37,160 posts)
10. The only thing that will make them reform is sustained complete loss
Wed Oct 30, 2019, 10:48 AM
Oct 2019

The NeverTrumpers will try to repeat what their forerunners in the 60s did, when the National Review-types sidelined the leadership of the John Birch Society to be the face of conservatism, but softly enough that the JBS rank and file would not balk at falling in line behind them rather than vote for anyone to the left of Attila the Hun.

They might pull it off, but then again the GOP base has been habituated toward punishing anyone they see as slackers or compromisers or otherwise of insufficient ideological correctness.

And if they do pull it off, they'll want to go back to "normal", by which they mean the Bush administration circa 2003.

They have to lose, lose, lose, for maybe 10 years or more, to disabuse them of the idea that all they have to do is brazen it out, just wait out any losses, and put themselves back in the driver's seat at the first opportunity.

The Genealogist

(4,723 posts)
12. I expect them to change about as much as i expect the sun to come up in the west.
Wed Oct 30, 2019, 11:10 AM
Oct 2019

They think their authoritation christofascism is perfect. They arent goimg to change.

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