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Dennis Donovan

(18,770 posts)
Wed Oct 30, 2019, 09:20 AM Oct 2019

Epstein's Autopsy 'Points to Homicide,' Not Suicide, Pathologist Claims

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/30/nyregion/michael-baden-jeffrey-epstein.html?smid=tw-nytimes&smtyp=cur

The pathologist hired by Jeffrey Epstein’s brother said evidence suggested strangulation. The authorities disputed the claim.

By Azi Paybarah
Oct. 30, 2019, 9:02 a.m. ET

A forensic pathologist hired by Jeffrey Epstein’s brother claimed on Wednesday that evidence suggested that Mr. Epstein did not die by suicide, but may have been strangled.

The authorities, including the New York City medial examiner, have concluded that the death of Mr. Epstein, the financier who was awaiting trial on sex trafficking charges, was caused by hanging in his jail cell.

But the pathologist, Dr. Michael Baden, said on the morning TV show “Fox & Friends” that Mr. Epstein, 66, experienced a number of injuries that “are extremely unusual in suicidal hangings and could occur much more commonly in homicidal strangulation.”

“I think that the evidence points to homicide rather than suicide,” Dr. Baden said, who observed the autopsy, which was conducted by city officials.

Dr. Baden, a former New York City medical examiner and a Fox News contributor, added, “I’ve not seen in 50 years where that occurred in a suicidal hanging case.”

The findings by Dr. Baden were strongly denied by the city’s chief medical examiner, Dr. Barbara Sampson, who previously ruled Mr. Epstein’s death on Aug. 10 in the Metropolitan Correctional Center a suicide.

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Epstein's Autopsy 'Points to Homicide,' Not Suicide, Pathologist Claims (Original Post) Dennis Donovan Oct 2019 OP
I was hoping he had a 'dead mans switch' alittlelark Oct 2019 #1
"Fox News contributor" get the red out Oct 2019 #2
I mean, yes, fuck fox, ramen Oct 2019 #7
I'm sure it's just coincidence that Barr gab13by13 Oct 2019 #3
Barr is complicit in murder. triron Oct 2019 #11
What's Trump's position? He died screaming, whimpering & crying like a cowardly dog? Jarqui Oct 2019 #4
K&R...👍🏼 spanone Oct 2019 #5
Interesting... 50 Shades Of Blue Oct 2019 #6
Oops! malaise Oct 2019 #8
Shocker!! gibraltar72 Oct 2019 #9
Aw, geez. PSPS Oct 2019 #10
Who is surprised by this? Gothmog Oct 2019 #12
I don't think anyone should be surprised a Fox News contributor would say this jberryhill Nov 2019 #13

ramen

(790 posts)
7. I mean, yes, fuck fox,
Wed Oct 30, 2019, 09:44 AM
Oct 2019

EDIT 2: here is a non-fox source about this issue:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/autopsy-finds-broken-bones-in-jeffrey-epsteins-neck-deepening-questions-around-his-death/2019/08/14/d09ac934-bdd9-11e9-b873-63ace636af08_story.html

EDIT: yes.. yes, I am misreading it. The forensic pathologist is a fox news contributor. Leaving my earlier comment below for transparency.


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original post:

but the forensic pathologist doesn't work for fox, right? Or am I misreading it?

His death being a suicide is extraordinarily suspicious to me, so I have some inherent bias towards believing other explanations first, but how would the injuries consistent with strangulation rather than hanging work if he hung himself?

Jarqui

(10,125 posts)
4. What's Trump's position? He died screaming, whimpering & crying like a cowardly dog?
Wed Oct 30, 2019, 09:29 AM
Oct 2019

Epstein probably had dirt on too many powerful people who joined in his sexcapades.
His death has to be suspicious.

PSPS

(13,598 posts)
10. Aw, geez.
Wed Oct 30, 2019, 10:58 AM
Oct 2019


The guy, a "a Fox News contributor," is paid by Fox to provide a distraction. He didn't do the autopsy. "may have been strangled." "unusual in suicidal hangings" doesn't mean it never happens or happened here.

But the conspiracy-theory movie-watching Wurlitzer will get some steam out of this.
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