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Kablooie

(18,634 posts)
Tue Oct 29, 2019, 09:08 PM Oct 2019

I wonder if we'll ever learn what Putin has over Trump?

Trump has spent years, unwaveringly bowing and scraping before Putin.
He sets Russia as his number one interest and works constantly to do it's bidding.

Some say he admires Putin's dictator-like control of Russia.
Some say he's in deep debt to Russian oligarchs.
Perhaps he's in debt for them handing him the presidency and of course the pee pee tapes might exist.

While these may be true, none of them seem enough to transform his "I am history's greatest" character into a subservient lap dog and maintain him in that position for years on end.

He's never this consistently supportive of anything. His views blow with the wind except when it comes to Russia.

Putin must hold something over Trump which is truly devastating.
Something that would totally destroy him if revealed.

Only something that would collapse his whole millionaire lifestyle could create such an unwavering hold on him.

I wonder what it could be and if we will ever find it out?

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I wonder if we'll ever learn what Putin has over Trump? (Original Post) Kablooie Oct 2019 OP
We can only hope so ! kimbutgar Oct 2019 #1
Probably something that could put trump in prison .. CatMor Oct 2019 #2
Trump always needs money. guillaumeb Oct 2019 #3
++ it's money. nt UniteFightBack Oct 2019 #10
Not until Putin is done using him, at the earliest. NCLefty Oct 2019 #4
I think it's a lot more complicated than that. There are dewsgirl Oct 2019 #5
I'm still thinking Trump Tower Moscow... Wounded Bear Oct 2019 #6
Russian money laundering Luciferous Oct 2019 #7
Snuff film and money laundering Generic Brad Oct 2019 #8
His followers would say that she wasn't an American so it doesn't matter. Kablooie Oct 2019 #9
He's so weird with Putin... servile, but in a warm way- dawg day Oct 2019 #11
Somebody knows something. That person or persons Grammy23 Oct 2019 #12
Pee Pee Tape vrguy Oct 2019 #13
Putin owns Trump, it's that simple Spider Jerusalem Oct 2019 #14
$$$ blogslut Oct 2019 #15
$$$$$$$$ Laura PourMeADrink Oct 2019 #16
Maybe a lot. moondust Oct 2019 #17
Yes, we will. There are too many people involved in lunatica Oct 2019 #18

dewsgirl

(14,961 posts)
5. I think it's a lot more complicated than that. There are
Tue Oct 29, 2019, 09:23 PM
Oct 2019

books that lay it out there. He has been courted by Russia since the 80's. Putin has been mentoring him basically to turn the US into an oligarchy...even though he he is a fairly inept buffoon, he has been successful to a certain degree, that is until the whistleblower came forward.
A good source of info into the predicament we find ourselves in is, the Gaslit Nation podcast.

Generic Brad

(14,275 posts)
8. Snuff film and money laundering
Tue Oct 29, 2019, 09:44 PM
Oct 2019

My bet is now on video of Trump killing a teenage girl in addition to money laundering. He continues to brag he could kill someone on Fifth Avenue and get away with it. That indicates he has done just that.

Kablooie

(18,634 posts)
9. His followers would say that she wasn't an American so it doesn't matter.
Tue Oct 29, 2019, 10:02 PM
Oct 2019

If she was American but a Democrat it wouldn't matter to them either.

dawg day

(7,947 posts)
11. He's so weird with Putin... servile, but in a warm way-
Tue Oct 29, 2019, 10:09 PM
Oct 2019

Not like "I'm scared of you," but "you're my hero."

He does that-- Kim has nothing on him, but Trump drools all over him too.

Grammy23

(5,810 posts)
12. Somebody knows something. That person or persons
Tue Oct 29, 2019, 10:13 PM
Oct 2019

May slip up one day. Or even tRump himself might. He has been known to reveal things that shouldn’t be uttered. So let us hope that Blabbermouth does the hit job on himself. Wouldn’t that be delicious??
 

Spider Jerusalem

(21,786 posts)
14. Putin owns Trump, it's that simple
Tue Oct 29, 2019, 10:17 PM
Oct 2019

Trump was incapable of attracting any investors other than bent Russian oligarchs and similar shady people, and his business going back years (decades?) has been underwritten by loans secured with Russian backing.

moondust

(19,981 posts)
17. Maybe a lot.
Wed Oct 30, 2019, 12:01 AM
Oct 2019

KGB agent Putin probably became aware of Dumpy the Clown sometime in the 1980s. As Dumpy surfaced from time to time in Russia and elsewhere at his properties, doing whatever he could to attract attention, the rising and eventual President Putin may have used Russian intelligence to gather compromising/incriminating information on him--possibly for years.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
18. Yes, we will. There are too many people involved in
Wed Oct 30, 2019, 12:08 AM
Oct 2019

one way or the other. A good researcher could do it just following one lead after another.

Maybe not while Putin is in power, but he might not be long for his karmic comeuppance. Russia is not in good shape.

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