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DES MOINES, Iowa Authorities on Monday released the name of a woman killed after she was struck by debris during a gender reveal announcement Saturday in Iowa.
The woman was identified as Pamela Kreimeyer, 56, in a news release Monday from the Marion County Sheriff's Office.
Sheriff Jason Sandholdt's office said an investigation showed that family members working on ways to make a fun announcement of a child's gender for social media inadvertently created a pipe bomb.
"Members of the Kreimeyer family were experimenting with different types of explosive material on Friday and Saturday," the news release said. Six people, including Kreimeyer and the expectant mother, gathered Saturday and put gunpowder inside a homemade stand that was welded to a metal base.
They put a piece of wood on top of the gunpowder and some colored powder on top of that. The stand had a hole drilled in the side for a fuse.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2019/10/28/pamela-kreimeyer-woman-killed-gender-reveal-explosion-identified/2486673001/
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This is a stupid fad that needs to die NOW!!!
LaurenOlimina
(1,165 posts)Was it a boy or a girl?
hlthe2b
(102,331 posts)LaurenOlimina
(1,165 posts)sdfernando
(4,937 posts)phleshdef
(11,936 posts)rusty fender
(3,428 posts)but there are non lethal ways to reveal gender, or should I say, non explosive ways
Sneederbunk
(14,297 posts)pnwest
(3,266 posts)sumbody gits blowed up.
hlthe2b
(102,331 posts)Those who think they need to document every single facet of their lives while one-upping everyone else while doing so.
Want to have a party to celebrate the news on your baby's gender? Fine. But why all this ridiculous nonsense? Bake a pink and a blue cake, open the envelope in front of everyone and then have the "right" cake brought out.
I know I sound somewhat contemptuous (and I guess I am). The whole phenomenon is just so OTT to me.
Coventina
(27,159 posts)Except a very few, close family members.
LisaL
(44,974 posts)Using their gender reveal pipe bomb.
Yonnie3
(17,463 posts)People should be able to announce the type of genitals the baby will have without killing people and starting forest fires.
Stupid, stupid, stupid.
LisaM
(27,820 posts)Peoples' fascination with explosions is really absurd to me.
MineralMan
(146,324 posts)Amateurs playing with explosives often die.
KG
(28,752 posts)he's missing a few fingers now.
exboyfil
(17,865 posts)but Iowa. Boy am I ashamed.
drray23
(7,637 posts)
"Members of the Kreimeyer family were experimenting with different types of explosive material on Friday and Saturday,
Why the heck do people think it's a good idea to screw around with explosives?
LiberalFighter
(51,020 posts)1) They should not had try to create something that it is not intended. Using gunpowder intended for loading firearm cartridges.
2) This blue or pink confetti or powder is bullshit. Just announce the gender without it. Or better yet, let everyone wait until the baby is born for everyone to find out. And wrap it in pink or blue.
edbermac
(15,942 posts)It's a perfect storm of thoughtlessness: on a hot Arizona day a man fires a shot into a target loaded with explosives set among dry grasses and mesquite trees. The result was the 45,000 acre Sawmill Fire that took the efforts of nearly 800 firefighters to put out.
Now the U.S. Forest Service has released video of that ridiculously dumb moment, so that we might all better recognize just how mundane the moments before disaster strikes can look. And because the law requires they provide it to local media upon request.
The brief video shows the fateful moment at a "gender reveal" party hosted by off-duty U.S. Border Patrol agent Dennis Dickey April 23, 2017 near Green Valley, Arizona. Such parties have become a bizarre trend recently in which colored explosives are sometimes used to reveal a baby's sex. But when a single shot explodes Dickey's target, the burst of blue is very quickly replaced by orange flames that immediately begin to consume the grassland and start spreading fast.
A few individuals in the video have been blacked out in the clip, which was obtained from the Forest Service by the Arizona Daily Star via a Freedom of Information Act request. As the fire spreads, a voice can be heard shouting to the group to "start packing up!"
For his part, Dickey reported the fire and his role in starting it to authorities. In September, he entered a plea agreement with the U.S. Justice Department to serve five years probation, record a public service announcement and eventually pay $8 million in restitution. However, a federal court reduced the total penalty to be paid to $200,000 at a sentencing hearing in October.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/ericmack/2018/11/27/see-the-remarkably-stupid-moment-arizonas-sawmill-fire-was-started-at-a-gender-reveal-party/#7b48ed26635a
muriel_volestrangler
(101,348 posts)Just "condolences to the family". Is that because she was part of the group that made the lethal weapon?
vercetti2021
(10,156 posts)Yeah I know in the light of tragedy but when you fuck with explosives this is kind of what happens. I should know that's why I don't do anymore.
shanti
(21,675 posts)What a tragedy for all
KY_EnviroGuy
(14,494 posts)the baby will have this tragedy to reflect on and mourn all its life.........
stopdiggin
(11,337 posts)but obviously not of equal depth and breadth in their dumbness. 1) gender reveal is STUPID (self-adsorbed, culturally meaningless, and BORING). Stop it. You're just annoying. And 2) farting around with homemade explosive devices is CRIMINALLY DUMB! And DANGEROUS. Guys .. stop playing with your pee-pee in public. Or actually .. we would rather that you DID play with your pee-pee in public .. and our wives and children would all be that much safer (and better entertained).
sarisataka
(18,733 posts)To spread shrapnel over 100 yards.
We just told everyone we were having girls, except for the youngest where a week before the due date the doctor looked at the ultrasound and said "Oops, we made a mistake". That required some clothing returns
Initech
(100,097 posts)regnaD kciN
(26,045 posts)...is that everyone who holds one of these ridiculous farces winds up with a kid who eventually comes out as trans, or at least gender-fluid.
tandem5
(2,072 posts)"Bad news hun, nuclear winter is upon us, but on the bright side, it's a boy!"
TeamPooka
(24,242 posts)eissa
(4,238 posts)Last edited Tue Oct 29, 2019, 10:46 AM - Edit history (1)
we could have been informed of our children's gender early. We both wanted to hear the announcement during delivery, and we loved it each time.
Phentex
(16,334 posts)except it was news to me when he turned out to be a boy. We didn't find out with either of our children but I thought I could just tell. I was right about the second one.
Ms. Toad
(34,085 posts)Having a penis or a Y chromosome does not necessrily make you a boy.
Stop this toxic crap that is apparently not only emotionally toxic, but also potentially dangerous.
regnaD kciN
(26,045 posts)Polybius
(15,465 posts)If the baby has a penis, is it now not ok to say it's a boy? If someone asks if your 1 year-old is a boy or a girl, is it an offensive question? Is the correct answer "the child's gender is not known until the child is old enough to disclose their gender"?
Ms. Toad
(34,085 posts)Is there a reason you feel the need to label your child? Why not use their name and gender neutral pronouns (they/them/their - or ze/zim/zir)?
That option aside, there is a significant difference between not making life overly complicated by using the presumed gender - and teh current trend of focusing an entire party on sharing thie child's body parts with the world as if the gender those body parts are attached to are the most important thing about the child. That's what is toxic.
I have known children as young as 3 who were very clear that their gender did not match their sex assigned at birth. One of those children is now 12, and has recently started on hormone blockers so he can go through puberty without the irreversible changes that the development of secondary sex characteristics brings.
Flaleftist
(3,473 posts)6 adults got together and thought stuffing a pipe with black powder, sealing it and then igniting it was a good idea? I mean I could see one stupid drunk person doing this, but no one present realized what they were doing? wow
RhodeIslandOne
(5,042 posts)I wont say it.
Demovictory9
(32,468 posts)I would think people would buy them... rather than making their own
Dem2theMax
(9,653 posts)and constantly being reminded that you are part of a Darwin Award winning family.
dchill
(38,516 posts)... would have been more fun. Kids love 'em, too!
LisaL
(44,974 posts)Who doesn't like cake? And nobody dies.
dchill
(38,516 posts)Phentex
(16,334 posts)through seeing someone use a cake for it. I thought it was the most bizarre thing ever. A party for this? (NOT a baby shower, a separate gender reveal party). Now in the days of viral video, everything has to be bigger and grander.
hlthe2b
(102,331 posts)I'm not looking for a compounded tragedy, obviously, but I do wonder why none of the media reports have even mentioned if this is/was an issue. ???
central scrutinizer
(11,659 posts)Who is learning that "gender reveal" is a thing from this post? I've never heard of this before!
Coventina
(27,159 posts)They are another excuse for parents to be to monopolize your time and attention.
cbdo2007
(9,213 posts)You do realize 99.99% of gender reveal parties are not made with homemade explosives.
Coventina
(27,159 posts)Run of the mill ones are stupid and annoying.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)Psychologists say conservatives and liberals are a lot more alike than different. I hate when our bad overlap is demonstrated beyond denial.
On the positive side, when I read about someone heroically saving another, I never wonder if that person is liberal or conservative. I know both would be just as likely.