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DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
Sun Oct 27, 2019, 10:38 PM Oct 2019

Re CA 25 And Katie Hill

I live in Brad Sherman's district. It abuts Katie Hill's district. It is extremely unlikely it falls back into Republican hands. The Trump brand is toxic in SoCal. Hillary won CA 25 by six and Katie won it by nine.


I feel bad for Katie but the seat is more important. I want the Republican party in SoCal so small you can fit it in your bathtub. I also expect a backlash because it looks like Katie was set up and even if the allegations are true the invasion of her privacy was sickening. Nobody deserves to have their most intimate moments plastered over the internet. Again I expect a backlash. It's so unCalifornian.

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Re CA 25 And Katie Hill (Original Post) DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2019 OP
And the bathtub is a thimble... pbmus Oct 2019 #1
Grover Norquist ". . .get it down to the size where we can drown it in the bathtub." TheBlackAdder Oct 2019 #11
LA County just converted to the nonverifiable ballot marking devices. It's going to be diva77 Oct 2019 #2
We vote mostly by mail. DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2019 #3
then make them stop. stopdiggin Oct 2019 #14
it certainly would help us keep it if a centrist PAC w/ Dem members wasn't backing the Rethug Celerity Oct 2019 #4
We're not going to let outsiders choose our reps. DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2019 #5
good, and I hope many of you tell the For Country Caucus to go fuck themselves Celerity Oct 2019 #8
That is not a bad thing. We need to field a strong democrat that has kept himself or Blue_true Oct 2019 #9
you must have misread, they (the centrists PAC with Dems) are supporting a REPUBLICAN Celerity Oct 2019 #10
It is not a bad thing that some centrist group is supporting a repugh. Blue_true Oct 2019 #21
That district has been red for ages, and it is madness to say that a bi-partisan group with Celerity Oct 2019 #22
Head to head, she beat him by almost 9%. nt Blue_true Oct 2019 #23
The Rethug is being backed/endorsed by a partially Democratic caucus Celerity Oct 2019 #24
We just have to agree to disagree. nt Blue_true Oct 2019 #25
What is so flagrant is that the predator in the WH is in the WH!1 UTUSN Oct 2019 #6
Former Congresswoman Hill's situation is more evidence that people Blue_true Oct 2019 #7
She will. Enormous talent, and now with lots of contacts. Hortensis Oct 2019 #16
I agree. nt Blue_true Oct 2019 #20
It was told to me as Jake Stern Oct 2019 #27
My parents didn't know much about the Net. Blue_true Oct 2019 #28
I thought she won by 3-4 FBaggins Oct 2019 #12
She beat him by 8.8 points. DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2019 #13
That's an impressive swing since the day after the election FBaggins Oct 2019 #18
With what we know now I would give her a 50/50 chance of holding the seat. DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2019 #19
I agree. The seat is more important. But also, it's not just about the pictures. pnwmom Oct 2019 #15
I just think it's sad. DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2019 #17
It is very sad. I'm hoping that for the sake of her district pnwmom Oct 2019 #26

TheBlackAdder

(28,211 posts)
11. Grover Norquist ". . .get it down to the size where we can drown it in the bathtub."
Sun Oct 27, 2019, 11:26 PM
Oct 2019

.

It seems like the hard part's done. 🛀

.

diva77

(7,651 posts)
2. LA County just converted to the nonverifiable ballot marking devices. It's going to be
Sun Oct 27, 2019, 10:41 PM
Oct 2019

a major battle to keep that district.

stopdiggin

(11,336 posts)
14. then make them stop.
Mon Oct 28, 2019, 03:45 AM
Oct 2019

does your local party know that your adamantly opposed to this method of balloting?

Celerity

(43,469 posts)
4. it certainly would help us keep it if a centrist PAC w/ Dem members wasn't backing the Rethug
Sun Oct 27, 2019, 10:44 PM
Oct 2019

they were backing the Rethug months before there was any scandal with Hill

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212629373

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
9. That is not a bad thing. We need to field a strong democrat that has kept himself or
Sun Oct 27, 2019, 11:01 PM
Oct 2019

herself free of any scandal at all. It would help if the person is ex-military, but also a true progressive (unlike Gabbard).

Celerity

(43,469 posts)
10. you must have misread, they (the centrists PAC with Dems) are supporting a REPUBLICAN
Sun Oct 27, 2019, 11:11 PM
Oct 2019

they were supporting the Rethug LONG before any scandal on Hill came out

so it IS a bad thing

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
21. It is not a bad thing that some centrist group is supporting a repugh.
Mon Oct 28, 2019, 05:44 PM
Oct 2019

She beat a incumbent repugh by close to 9%. If we nominate the right person, I don't care that neoconservative of any party backs the repugh, he or she likely will lose. I seriously doubt that "centrist" group supported Hill in her run, we don't need them as long as we have a clear-headed nominee that has not tainted himself of herself with a self-inflicted ethical issue.

Celerity

(43,469 posts)
22. That district has been red for ages, and it is madness to say that a bi-partisan group with
Mon Oct 28, 2019, 06:17 PM
Oct 2019

multiple Democrats (including from California) supporting a Rethug is a good thing. That PAC did not endorse Hill nor Knight in 2018.

CA-25 was straight Rethug for 25 years until Hill won. She had to fight off further left opponents in the primaries, opponents who probably would not have beaten Knight in the general. In fact, if our (I am registered in CA, very near Hill's district, my rep is Ted Lieu) jungle primaries worked like others, Hill would have lost, because Knight got over 50% in the primary in June.

Celerity

(43,469 posts)
24. The Rethug is being backed/endorsed by a partially Democratic caucus
Mon Oct 28, 2019, 06:44 PM
Oct 2019

and its affiliated PAC. If you cannot see the major problem (made worse now by our sitting Representative having to resign in scandal) there, well, we are done here, as we clearly are at loggerheads.

Also, it is about to get even worse, as now Knight, who said he was not going to try and reclaim his seat, is probably jumping back in.


GOP incumbent whom Katie Hill defeated is considering run for her seat

https://nypost.com/2019/10/28/gop-incumbent-who-katie-hill-defeated-is-considering-run-for-her-seat/

The former California GOP congressman who lost his seat to Katie Hill in a 2018 election says he is “absolutely considering” running for the office again now that she’s resigning amid a sex scandal.

Ex-US Rep. Steve Knight told the Signal of Santa Clarita Valley after Hill announced her resignation Sunday that he would make a formal announcement “very quickly” about his plans for California’s 25th Congressional District.

Hill had defeated the two-term Republican by 9 percentage points last year, flipping the district blue for the first time since 1990.

“It’s a very interesting situation, and we need representation here,” Knight said. “It looks like there’s going to be that special election, and we need to have a representative there so we can have our voice in Congress.”

When asked whether he was weighing a run, Knight replied, “Yes, I’m absolutely considering that. Let’s say I’m more than considering that.”

snip

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
7. Former Congresswoman Hill's situation is more evidence that people
Sun Oct 27, 2019, 10:58 PM
Oct 2019

really need to think about what they put on camera, even if the situation is consensual. Nothing should go on camera that a person will be ashamed to own.

I hope that she bounces back from this, maybe get a job with a democratic progressive organization and move forward with her life.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
16. She will. Enormous talent, and now with lots of contacts.
Mon Oct 28, 2019, 05:49 AM
Oct 2019

But with inadequate self discipline and ethics, we're better off with her applying it outside electoral politics. I was a strong admirer and hate that she turned out to be this way, but best it happened now. She was being groomed for leadership and speaking for the party in public, for god's sake.

Shucking that malicious prize of a husband will be a big step forward. She's been getting him jobs, and he's now asking for spousal support. That tap just turned off.

Jake Stern

(3,145 posts)
27. It was told to me as
Mon Oct 28, 2019, 08:51 PM
Oct 2019

"Don't put anything on the 'net that you'd be too embarrassed to show to your grandma"

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
28. My parents didn't know much about the Net.
Mon Oct 28, 2019, 08:59 PM
Oct 2019

But they warned me against doing anything that I would later be ashamed of.

FBaggins

(26,756 posts)
12. I thought she won by 3-4
Sun Oct 27, 2019, 11:34 PM
Oct 2019

Regardless... it won’t switch back to red because she resigned. It would have been far less likely to hold if she had decided (like many male congressmen) to try to stay... because her district is much closer to the center point.

On edit - looks like it was 2.6%

FBaggins

(26,756 posts)
18. That's an impressive swing since the day after the election
Mon Oct 28, 2019, 09:24 AM
Oct 2019

It was originally reported as quite close.

Doesn't much matter though... that's clearly not large enough to weather something like this (plus the ethics investigation that would follow). If Kevin McCarthy (next door in the 23rd) did the same thing... he could probably weather the storm because the PVI there is R+14. He could turn off 1/5th of his base and energize the opposition... and still win. The PVI in the 25th is dead even.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
19. With what we know now I would give her a 50/50 chance of holding the seat.
Mon Oct 28, 2019, 09:31 AM
Oct 2019

I would give an unblemished Democrat a 75% chance of holding the seat.

The PVI in CA 25 was even in a +9 Democratic year. It's highly unlikely we lose the House popular vote in 2020. If we do we have a lot more to worry about than CA 25, a lot more...

pnwmom

(108,990 posts)
15. I agree. The seat is more important. But also, it's not just about the pictures.
Mon Oct 28, 2019, 04:22 AM
Oct 2019

It's about her involvement with the campaign staffer (who she continued to pay as a "consultant) and possibly also with the House staffer, Legislative Affairs director Graham Kelley. When the story about her husband's claim about Graham came out, she quickly resigned.

pnwmom

(108,990 posts)
26. It is very sad. I'm hoping that for the sake of her district
Mon Oct 28, 2019, 07:46 PM
Oct 2019

someone else strong runs to take her seat.

I've heard that the Ca Secretary of State is thinking about running.

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