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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsChanging the Ukrainian plank at the convention -
Remember when the Rs did this in 2016? Seems like Manafort was brought on board for that specific purpose. Ukraine has been an objective from the beginning. Of Putin's.
Drum
(9,197 posts)Glad that you mentioned this. It did seem at the time (Summer 2016) soooo strange that this would be done by the Rs at all, and that it would happen in such circumstances.
It clearly stank, but seemed to be buried by the avalanche of mendacity to follow.
I hope that this action is receiving new scrutiny and will be an evidentiary element in impeachment proceedings.
emmaverybo
(8,144 posts)B Stieg
(2,410 posts)because they're hurting him and his rich buddies...
90-percent
(6,829 posts)arranged for trumps plane to have make believe plane trouble in indiana back in 2016, just for manafort to introduce him to pence, his next veep.
Pence was pretty much installed by Putin himself. (or maybe ukraine-russian middle man?)
-90% jimmy
OAITW r.2.0
(24,610 posts)I think this was a test by Putin to see if Trump had the influence to get that pesky plank removed. Trump and his Band of Republican Co-conspirators passed the test....
Wounded Bear
(58,706 posts)and yeah, all roads lead to Putin.
Botany
(70,581 posts)The son of a bitch knew "the fix was in."
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)of Ukraine back then also, Russia helping Syria's crime-family government regain control, and now Russia has the Crimea and a port on the Mediterranean in Syria, and a promising new relationship with Iran. Syria was supposed to get control of half the Kurdish homeland, and Russia's now objecting to Trump sending troops to the Kurdish oil fields in eastern Syria to keep Assad from grabbing them instead. Thieves falling out. But otherwise all planned.
And, I don't think incidentally, a person running for president in the Democratic primary, as one former intelligence officer sorta put it (I don't remember the precise words), recites official Russian and Syrian lines with remarkable fluency. This was in response to being asked if he thought Russia had an asset in our election.
And our intelligence services say Iran's stepped up its occult warfare intervention in our 2020 election.