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eridani

(51,907 posts)
Thu Jan 5, 2012, 09:08 PM Jan 2012

Political problems with private insurance mandates

The author's question about Medicare is pretty easy to answer. It is financed by a tax, and the benefits are the same for everyone. You have surely all noted the massive unpopularity of Medicare privatization via vouchers. ACA is essentially a voucherized "Medicare" for people under 65, who don't like it any better than the over 65 crowd does.

http://www.tnr.com/print/article/politics/99072/the-health-care-mandate-really-was-mistake

I understand the impulse to defend the Affordable Care Act when it is under unrelenting attack. But a mistake is a mistake, and supporters of the law—particularly Democratic candidates facing tough races in 2012—need to think through alternatives to the mandate in view of both the upcoming Supreme Court ruling and this fall’s election.

Whether the Court will overturn the mandate, we don’t know. But in drafting the Affordable Care Act, Democrats put at unnecessary risk their most significant domestic achievement of the past three years. Keeping the same policy, they could have framed the mandate so it fell unambiguously under the government’s taxing power. Even just labeling the penalties for failing to insure a “tax” would have strengthened the argument for upholding the law and greatly increased the odds that the Court would invoke the 1867 Anti-Injunction Act, deferring the case until 2015, when the penalties would first be imposed. And Democrats could have avoided any constitutional challenge by adopting the alternative that I proposed, which eliminated the mandate by providing for a long-term (five-year) opt out from both the law’s benefits and its penalties.

That the mandate was a political as well as a legal miscalculation should also now be clear. When Congress passed the Affordable Care Act, many observers expected that controversy would die down, and the law would soon be as widely accepted as Medicare is. That hasn’t happened. Why not?

The mandate is one reason why the law’s opponents have been able to sustain their cause. No other provision could have provided as effective a basis for both the legal challenges to the law and the political campaigns against it; voters in 14 states have passed amendments to their state constitutions prohibiting an individual mandate. Even though such amendments have no legal force, the campaigns and court cases have kept public opinion focused on the least popular aspect of the Affordable Care Act, dragging down overall support and maintaining the high-intensity opposition to the law on the right (in contrast to the tepid and ambivalent support for it on the left).

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Political problems with private insurance mandates (Original Post) eridani Jan 2012 OP
This mandate is especially poorly constructed since it dictates most Americans buy from the company TheKentuckian Jan 2012 #1
Here is an alternative SteveG Jan 2012 #2
An alternative that only an amoral sociopath can love eridani Jan 2012 #3

TheKentuckian

(25,029 posts)
1. This mandate is especially poorly constructed since it dictates most Americans buy from the company
Thu Jan 5, 2012, 10:15 PM
Jan 2012

store which is within easy walking distance to indenturtude and just a short drive from slavery.

The mandate is pre-labor movement style regressive. It is a good thing the TeaPubliKlans love fascism more than they hate Obama or they'd be blasting Tennessee Ernie Ford and showing black and white pictures of hardscrable workers from the turn of the century in an add campaign making just that connection but that would also be a primer for labor so they'll stick to shooting spitballs and pretending this bullshit wasn't their wicked and evil idea. No matter what else they do or how much they posture, they will never undo the mandate, it has been on their agenda since the 70's or before.

SteveG

(3,109 posts)
2. Here is an alternative
Thu Jan 5, 2012, 10:42 PM
Jan 2012

If a person who is uninsured receives medical care and he cannot pay, then 20% of his or her wages will be attached to pay for that medical care until it is paid off. This will effectively be a loan from the State with an interest rate of 8%.

eridani

(51,907 posts)
3. An alternative that only an amoral sociopath can love
Fri Jan 6, 2012, 05:19 AM
Jan 2012

An even better alternative based on those values would be just gassing poor sick people to put them out of their misery.

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