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Pelosi, Schiff, Engel and other Dems are in Jordan for unannounced meeting on matters rel. to Syria (Original Post) RandySF Oct 2019 OP
This message was self-deleted by its author RandySF Oct 2019 #1
K&R...👍🏼👍🏼 spanone Oct 2019 #2
excellent news handmade34 Oct 2019 #3
Our allies are getting scittish... pbmus Oct 2019 #4
Jordan is not an ally. former9thward Oct 2019 #13
Whatever...read some more at link pbmus Oct 2019 #14
Good job. Kingofalldems Oct 2019 #29
Jordan has 2nd highest refugee / population ratio in the world Hermit-The-Prog Oct 2019 #22
I believe the numbers are very overstated. former9thward Oct 2019 #31
yes, I believe your numbers are overstated Hermit-The-Prog Oct 2019 #33
not sure what you mean stopdiggin Oct 2019 #23
I believe Israel is the only reliable ally we have in that area. former9thward Oct 2019 #27
and I'm not convinced that stopdiggin Oct 2019 #32
The third heartbeat away is doing something. sheshe2 Oct 2019 #5
It does feel suspicious lots going on behind the scenes. gordianot Oct 2019 #21
Well then. irisblue Oct 2019 #6
Damage control? BigmanPigman Oct 2019 #7
K&R!!! 2naSalit Oct 2019 #8
Whoa blm Oct 2019 #9
At least volstork Oct 2019 #10
Woooo! Hooo! 2naSalit Oct 2019 #11
K&R ismnotwasm Oct 2019 #12
Thank goodness for there still being some adults in office. herding cats Oct 2019 #15
I'm so happy to learn this! Thank goodness we can show the M.E. we still have decent people. Karadeniz Oct 2019 #16
What a relief. Here's hoping the trip goes well. crickets Oct 2019 #17
Please. Be. Safe. NBachers Oct 2019 #18
Wonder how the President will react? Hope he doesn't do something impeachable. Midnight Writer Oct 2019 #19
He does so each and every day. I'm sure in the next 24 hours dewsgirl Oct 2019 #30
Nice to see someone is exercising some kind of leadership. Takket Oct 2019 #20
Deleted because it was stupid. leftyladyfrommo Oct 2019 #24
Are you sure that's what you meant to say? MineralMan Oct 2019 #25
What I meant was Trump is being completely leftyladyfrommo Oct 2019 #26
Surprised the Republicans went along with this exboyfil Oct 2019 #28
I just hope and pray they stay safe CatWoman Oct 2019 #34
After Moscow Don's Wellstone ruled Oct 2019 #35

Response to RandySF (Original post)

pbmus

(12,422 posts)
4. Our allies are getting scittish...
Sat Oct 19, 2019, 10:34 PM
Oct 2019

And I don’t blame them one iota...

There has to be leadership somewhere and our Democrats are trying to calm the waters...but when Jordan sees hundreds of thousands of refugees pouring in from Syria into various countries but mainly Jordan who has been trying to take care of as many as possible...well, the leadership has to provide assurance of assistance...

This illegitimate POS has caused immeasurable harm...

Somehow someway, we must take back the reins from Erdogan..

The Con is not above turning our guns on the Turk...and that Erdogan/Putin meeting will be more about how do we pull him into this...

pbmus

(12,422 posts)
14. Whatever...read some more at link
Sat Oct 19, 2019, 11:28 PM
Oct 2019

Jordan–United States relations covers the bilateral relations between Jordan and the United States. Jordan has been a very close Major non-NATO ally in the Middle East since 1996.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jordan–United_States_relations

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,447 posts)
22. Jordan has 2nd highest refugee / population ratio in the world
Sun Oct 20, 2019, 02:34 AM
Oct 2019

Jordan has strained its resources to help refugees.

former9thward

(32,082 posts)
31. I believe the numbers are very overstated.
Sun Oct 20, 2019, 11:48 AM
Oct 2019

Why would that be? Well, Jordan receives foreign aid for the refugees from the UN and various countries. So the greater the number the greater the aid. Let's do the math. Jordan claims 2 million Palestinian refugees. They claim 630,000 refugees from Syria. They claim 750,000 to 1 million Iraqi refugees. So that is about 3.4 million. One of the UN agencies says 760,000. I have been to Jordan several times and I have seen the main refugee camps. I believe even the UN number is over stated.


https://reliefweb.int/sites/reliefweb.int/files/resources/68302.pdf

stopdiggin

(11,377 posts)
23. not sure what you mean
Sun Oct 20, 2019, 02:55 AM
Oct 2019

you mean like the Saudis, the Syrians, the Egyptians, the Lebanese, the Iraqis ..
(or are you perhaps intimating that Netanyahu is the only ally we have in that part of the world?)

former9thward

(32,082 posts)
27. I believe Israel is the only reliable ally we have in that area.
Sun Oct 20, 2019, 10:58 AM
Oct 2019

History has proven that over and over again since the end of WW II. I have been in Jordan several times and it is a beautiful country but it is run by a dictatorship. Dictators do what is in their interest not in anyone else's interest.

stopdiggin

(11,377 posts)
32. and I'm not convinced that
Sun Oct 20, 2019, 01:00 PM
Oct 2019

they are as strong (or perhaps dependable is a better word?) ally as some would think. But part of that might have to do with the shifting sands of foreign policy (particularly in the ME). And if, in fact, the U.S. has a coherent foreign policy or world view these days. My view -- in the transitory, and contradictory, world of the ME -- Israel is an ally of convenience, just like all the rest. Sadly, 20th century ideas like a "western or democratic" don't seem to carry as much weight as they use to. And Israel is just as much a part of that sad mix as the other players (including the U.S.)

2naSalit

(86,804 posts)
11. Woooo! Hooo!
Sat Oct 19, 2019, 11:10 PM
Oct 2019

I knew she's shadowed him on some of his big trips... I trust her to help keep some of our friends and I trust her and her traveling companions to help stop shithead from blowing up the world.

Expect some incredible temper tantrum that will last for months.

herding cats

(19,568 posts)
15. Thank goodness for there still being some adults in office.
Sat Oct 19, 2019, 11:32 PM
Oct 2019

This is reassuring on many levels.

I know of several other allies there who could use a visit from our sane leaders.

crickets

(25,983 posts)
17. What a relief. Here's hoping the trip goes well.
Sun Oct 20, 2019, 12:53 AM
Oct 2019

Donald will, of course, have an incoherent twitter cow in 3...2...

Midnight Writer

(21,803 posts)
19. Wonder how the President will react? Hope he doesn't do something impeachable.
Sun Oct 20, 2019, 01:20 AM
Oct 2019

Hillary Clinton summed him up with "a man who can be baited by a Tweet".

dewsgirl

(14,961 posts)
30. He does so each and every day. I'm sure in the next 24 hours
Sun Oct 20, 2019, 11:17 AM
Oct 2019

He will commit at least one impeachable offense.
I think I'm beginning to notice a pattern, Sunday evening/Monday mornings there is a new outrage to set the week.

leftyladyfrommo

(18,874 posts)
26. What I meant was Trump is being completely
Sun Oct 20, 2019, 10:49 AM
Oct 2019

Over ridden by this delegation and he is not going to take that lightly.

And I thought the great son in law was supposed to be in charge of the Middle East. I haven't seen anything about him lately

exboyfil

(17,865 posts)
28. Surprised the Republicans went along with this
Sun Oct 20, 2019, 10:59 AM
Oct 2019

It doesn't fit into their scorched earth policy. Is there a chance that some sanity is coming back?

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
35. After Moscow Don's
Sun Oct 20, 2019, 02:43 PM
Oct 2019

name calling the other day,you just knew something was going to happen. The Three Generals sitting at the far end of the Table most likely moved on this.

We need a Bug Out Point for our Forces,and despite what some think,Jordan's King and Family are pro USA and will offer a temporary safe haven for our Troops .

BTW,the Nevada Air National Guard was ordered up on Wednesday with all their Helio's to report to somewhere in the Mid East. First stop is a base in Texas for a week of shake down Training and off they go.

BTW,Nevada Air Guard has one of the largest fleets of Chinooks. Wednesday PM several flights of these Helio's flew into Nellis as well as several mega Cargo Planes.

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