General Discussion
Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsRachel just stitched the whole thing together ( video added )
Last edited Sat Oct 19, 2019, 08:42 AM - Edit history (3)
Maddow explains everything from Putin through Ukraine and Firtash through Rudy and Joe DiGenova And Victoria Toensing through Lev Parnas to Trumps re-election campaign.
Edit: and heres the segment:
uponit7771
(90,364 posts)... and it's freakin scary.
A Kremlin tied oligarch making up crap on Biden on paper and Guiliani trying to get them into the US
Trump Super PAC taking Russian money
Federal contractors writing checks directly to Trump PACs.
BootinUp
(47,187 posts)All of this.
uponit7771
(90,364 posts)... pushing Russian money into Trump super pacs and openly giving Trump superpacs money from federal contractors !!!
WTF !?!?!
Blue_playwright
(1,568 posts)This was coming. Im surprised it isnt worse, frankly.
BootinUp
(47,187 posts)chillfactor
(7,584 posts)thank you for the post...Rachel has such a great way to bring language to a laymen's level.
triron
(22,020 posts)'Alice in Wonderland'.
Matthew28
(1,798 posts)Treasonous and shocking. Trump and his entire admin is nothing more then a russian mob arm.
Bonx
(2,075 posts)chillfactor
(7,584 posts)are easier for people to understand.
BootinUp
(47,187 posts)Easier to string together fewer gaps, like no gaps.
triron
(22,020 posts)certainot
(9,090 posts)what 1500 coordinated radio stations are doing all day in 40 states with 80 senators
dhol82
(9,353 posts)orangecrush
(19,617 posts)orangecrush
(19,617 posts)Believe it.
dem4decades
(11,304 posts)There will be none. I'm not very hopeful.
The_jackalope
(1,660 posts)Mueller was a connect-the-dots exercise. Here the criminal activity is in plain sight.
AkFemDem
(1,836 posts)Chiyo-chichi
(3,586 posts)Interesting that Firtash is living in exile in Vienna.
Where were Lev Parnas and Igor Fruman (and possibly Guiliani) headed again?
dchill
(38,532 posts)BigmanPigman
(51,627 posts)albacore
(2,406 posts)I've listened to Rachel, and she certainly has a strong case.
What I'm having trouble with is that this all seems like some giant, overarching conspiracy. And I HATE that thought. It sounds like those bullshit plots/conspiracy theories they made up about Clinton. You know... this is related to that and that and it all goes back to Clinton.
If this is even close to true...all this shit tracing back to Russian mob guys and oligarchs... it is the biggest conspiracy in our history. By far!
And the worst part is that all the major players will never be caught, never serve time, never be impoverished.
We've never seen anything like these times.
BootinUp
(47,187 posts)Crossroad.
barbtries
(28,811 posts)"a vast right wing conspiracy"
I think putin is using trump to completely realign the USA away from its allies. we, and our democracy, are in peril.
bdamomma
(63,922 posts)remember Steve Bannon who is Leninist wanted to see the government crash and burn.
Putin is doing the same thing he wants to see our country split up, we have to in some way prove him wrong.
yardwork
(61,703 posts)For instance, it doesn't make sense to believe that Hillary killed somebody just because somebody says it. There's no evidence. It's just an accusation, based on nothing, that gets thrown out there and repeated. With no evidence, there's no reason to believe it's true.
Is there evidence for what Rachel is saying about Trump? Yes.
bdamomma
(63,922 posts)is the next to go to trial, and he even showed up at Pappy Bush's funeral with one of those Ukrainian guys.
dchill
(38,532 posts)Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)Jarqui
(10,130 posts)were outstanding in pulling the story together.
I'm sure there will be other tentacles run down from this but the core of it is quite simple.
I really doubt the majority of the country would tolerate this but I also doubt whether the majority of the country is ever going to find out about it or understand it because of how messed up the media is.
eleny
(46,166 posts)dchill
(38,532 posts)Projection treason weasels.
BigmanPigman
(51,627 posts)He was pushing their BS. An article in Time mag. had all of them in an equation....
Rudy + (Joseph + Victoria × Hannity) × Barr/Zelinsky = ?????
Pepsidog
(6,254 posts)gibraltar72
(7,512 posts)patphil
(6,207 posts)No wonder there have been a lot of calls on the Republican side to bring this impeachment investigation to a head as quickly as possible.
The depth, and breath of corruption that we are just beginning to see uncovered is astounding.
And all the paths seem to lead back to Putin.
It tells me that Speaker Pelosi knows a lot more than we think.
The phrase "all deliberate speed" comes to mind.
Keep things moving forward, but give it time for the truth to come out.
I think January is the earliest the House should have the formal vote on what looks like a growing list of Articles of Impeachment.
Patrick Phillips
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)spoken up about it? How can you be around these people, work out in the gym, hear the conversation in the hallway and not ever hear or say anything?
OAITW r.2.0
(24,610 posts)We all should acknowledge this. We knew Trump was Kompramised before the election. No big surprise.
But pay attention to the Trump Fluffers. There are many, but take out the Jim Jordans and Devin Nune's....they've got nothing.
No Republican was elected for their legislative skills. They were elected because, they were weak, compromised, and subject to a Party line. That's the way Republican's roll.....
(Feel free to share)
dewsgirl
(14,961 posts)to Welch's juice and Portugal. There used be an amazing leak account that laid it all out over the course of a week. Back when you could take your time and process the news.
OAITW r.2.0
(24,610 posts)This is the USA syndicate under DJT. Answering to Putin. Like Johnson,like MBS, like that NK Fuckhead,like Erdogen. We better figure this out soon.
OAITW r.2.0
(24,610 posts)Rudi pretty much killed the Italian Mafia in NYC....but he gave the Russian's free reign to invade and destroy this country. No wonder he plots aginst the USA. He is owned, too.
The_jackalope
(1,660 posts)Is to run interference for Dmitri Firtash, to block his extradition. Screwing with the Mueller probe was just a sideline. JMHO.
cilla4progress
(24,766 posts)Sarah Kendzior and her excellent podcast Gaslit Nation?
dewsgirl
(14,961 posts)klook
(12,165 posts)have a great podcast in Gaslit Nation. And theyve been way ahead of almost everybody else in connecting these dots.
cilla4progress
(24,766 posts)Absolutely!
I've listened before and listened to only a portion, I think, of their most recent cast.
I feel like I understand the enormity of it now. Putin and Russian mob and organized crime and Republicans and evangelicals and NRA ..
Oh my.
pazzyanne
(6,556 posts)Tons of information and I am still breathless from what I learned.
Gothmog
(145,554 posts)bdamomma
(63,922 posts)she always is, she does her research.
gordianot
(15,245 posts)I am also convinced she has help and some great connections that help connect the dots. Watching her show tonight I had the feeling what she knows came from very reliable sources. Her reporting stands out of the crowd.
oasis
(49,408 posts)triron
(22,020 posts)"Randy Perkins donated $500,000 to America First Action, a pro-Trump super PAC, a day after his company won federal money as part of a contract. The same PAC was dubbed Committee 1 in a federal indictment alleging illegal donations from two Rudy Giuliani associates."
BootinUp
(47,187 posts)questionseverything
(9,659 posts)I get that democrats never want to look political but it sure seems like trump was breaking every law in the book during his campaign?
just seems like he should of been caught long ago
Wounded Bear
(58,706 posts)Plus, she digs into the history of what has been happening and pulls the threads together on a timeline.
She's pretty good.