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kpete

(72,006 posts)
Tue Oct 15, 2019, 08:32 PM Oct 2019

Confirmation that this entire scheme is a Russian mob disinformation campaign

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NEW: In their effort to discredit Trump’s perceived enemies, the president's close allies received key documents and information from a Ukrainian oligarch wanted in the US on corruption charges, five people directly involved tell TIME https://time.com/5699201/exclusive-how-a-ukrainian-oligarch-wanted-by-u-s-authorities-helped-giuliani-attack-biden/ … via @shustry



https://time.com/5699201/exclusive-how-a-ukrainian-oligarch-wanted-by-u-s-authorities-helped-giuliani-attack-biden/


Over the last two months, a TIME investigation has traced some of Giuliani’s claims about Biden and Mueller to a troubling relationship, one in which a foreigner wanted by the U.S. government on corruption charges has taken steps, as part of his own legal strategy, that are helping the American President attack his most prominent critics.

The information came from the legal team of Dmitry Firtash, a wealthy industrialist with assets across Europe, who has spent the last five years in Vienna fighting extradition to the U.S. on bribery and racketeering charges. The U.S. Department of Justice said in 2017 he was among the “upper echelon associates of Russian organized crime”—something Firtash vigorously denies, along with all charges against him.

As part of his legal defense, Firtash’s lawyers have gathered documents that make controversial allegations against former special counsel Robert Mueller and former Vice President Joe Biden. Firtash’s lawyers have passed these documents and other information to associates of Trump’s personal lawyer Rudy Giuliani.

In his frequent appearances on cable news, Giuliani has presented some of these documents to the American public as evidence for his claims of wrongdoing by Mueller and Biden. The key document is an affidavit from a former Ukrainian prosecutor who accuses Biden of corruption. “The witness I’m relying on,” Giuliani told Fox News on Oct. 6, was the prosecutor Viktor Shokin. “That’s the affidavit I put out,” Giuliani added. He did not mention that the affidavit was obtained by the Firtash legal team. At the beginning of the document, Shokin writes that he is making the statement “at the request of lawyers acting for Dmitry Firtash.”
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Confirmation that this entire scheme is a Russian mob disinformation campaign (Original Post) kpete Oct 2019 OP
K & R...for visibility...nt Wounded Bear Oct 2019 #1
Then they have Kompromat on Trump and his allies. applegrove Oct 2019 #2
Holy Sh-t!!!!! mucifer Oct 2019 #3
Great article. dalton99a Oct 2019 #4
Wasn't the Ghoul supposed to fly to Vienna? TheRealNorth Oct 2019 #5
' . . . befor lev and igor got detained . . . ' empedocles Oct 2019 #6
K&R orangecrush Oct 2019 #7
Somehow our legal system grinds on bucolic_frolic Oct 2019 #8
I think Rachel Maddow covered this last week. SergeStorms Oct 2019 #9
i'll bet most or all of it got blasted out by trump buddy limnbaugh before anyone ever saw it on tv certainot Oct 2019 #10
KnR Hekate Oct 2019 #11

dalton99a

(81,565 posts)
4. Great article.
Tue Oct 15, 2019, 08:58 PM
Oct 2019
https://time.com/5699201/exclusive-how-a-ukrainian-oligarch-wanted-by-u-s-authorities-helped-giuliani-attack-biden/

Exclusive: How a Ukrainian Oligarch Wanted by U.S. Authorities Helped Giuliani Attack Biden
By Simon Shuster
October 15, 2019

In their effort to discredit President Donald Trump’s perceived enemies, close allies of the President have received key documents and information from a Ukrainian oligarch wanted in the U.S. on corruption charges, according to five people directly involved in this effort and two other people familiar with it.

The information came from the legal team of Dmitry Firtash, a wealthy industrialist with assets across Europe, who has spent the last five years in Vienna fighting extradition to the U.S. on bribery and racketeering charges. The U.S. Department of Justice said in 2017 he was among the “upper echelon associates of Russian organized crime”—something Firtash vigorously denies, along with all charges against him.

As part of his legal defense, Firtash’s lawyers have gathered documents that make controversial allegations against former special counsel Robert Mueller and former Vice President Joe Biden. Firtash’s lawyers have passed these documents and other information to associates of Trump’s personal lawyer Rudy Giuliani.

In his frequent appearances on cable news, Giuliani has presented some of these documents to the American public as evidence for his claims of wrongdoing by Mueller and Biden. The key document is an affidavit from a former Ukrainian prosecutor who accuses Biden of corruption. “The witness I’m relying on,” Giuliani told Fox News on Oct. 6, was the prosecutor Viktor Shokin. “That’s the affidavit I put out,” Giuliani added. He did not mention that the affidavit was obtained by the Firtash legal team. At the beginning of the document, Shokin writes that he is making the statement “at the request of lawyers acting for Dmitry Firtash.”

bucolic_frolic

(43,249 posts)
8. Somehow our legal system grinds on
Tue Oct 15, 2019, 10:07 PM
Oct 2019

despite Trump and Barr and Mulvaney and Guiliani and Mnuchin and Pompeo and McConnell and all the rest of the GOP who appear to be sworn or compromised into silence.

I like our chances, but there are some Big Fish to fry and displacing them seems uncertain at best.

This has been a plot several decades in the making in my view.

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
10. i'll bet most or all of it got blasted out by trump buddy limnbaugh before anyone ever saw it on tv
Tue Oct 15, 2019, 10:48 PM
Oct 2019

as they've done with every other bullshit they've sold the last 30 years

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