A few presidents might have done more damage, but I respect Trump less than any other one.

[BlueStater]

Andrew Jackson? War hero. Got a permanent scar as a teenager after being slashed in the fact by a British soldier after refusing to shine his boots.

Ronald Reagan? Born into poverty. Had an alcoholic father. Made something of himself.

George W. Bush? Overcame alcoholism. As someone who's had alcoholics in his own family, I can at least relate to him on this aspect.

Trump? Lowlife conman born into wealth who's never had to struggle a day in his worthless fucking life. Too cowardly to even serve his country. His "impressive" resume for achieving the nation's highest office included being a corrupt and incompetent businessman and then hosting a tacky reality show.

For every other president, even the worst ones, I can think of at least one positive trait they may have had. I can't think of any for Trump. Not one goddamn one.

[uponit7771]

1. K&R, I'm thinking Bush has caused more damage until we find out defense secrets Red Don has shared

... with the Russians et al.

There's no question he's sold America out in the area of secrets but we don't know how much ... on the other stuff we still have a chance to work with our democracy and make Red Don pay for his shittiness

[unblock]

4. some of the damage donnie is doing is vastly more sinister.

rebuilding the federal bureaucracy, for instance. through partisan appointments, deliberate neglect and decay, and so on, he's undermining trust in things like government economic statistics.

that sort of thing is massively harmful to ordinary businesses and it may take decades to regain that trust.

moreover, his violent emboldening of white supremacists may also last a generation or more.


and the betrayal of the kurds is extremely damaging to our reputation and our relationships with all our allies. it's vastly more damaging than merely handing over the middle east to russia, which itself is mind-bogglingly damaging.

[uponit7771]

5. +1, yes for the US to become a power broker in the ME for the price we were paying could take a ....

... while.

Its just in life and treasure Iraq war has wont be paid off in generations, I'm thinking its the reason we there are no more state level tax deductions.

[dewsgirl]

2. The scope of the damage he has caused in the last week, is

only beginning to reveal itself. He has done far more damage than any other president could ever have even imagined.

[frazzled]

3. He has shredded all our traditional alliances

and allied us with dictators around the world. He has made the world more dangerous. I call that a whole lotta damage.

True, Bush's misguided war in Iraq cost many lives, mostly unnecessarily. But we have not yet seen the damage and lives lost (many just in a few days) due to Trump pulling out of Syria at Turkey/Russia's behests.