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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(108,035 posts)
Tue Oct 15, 2019, 03:01 PM Oct 2019

U.S. military keeps 50 nuclear weapons on Turkish airbase, and now they're 'Erdogan's hostages'

The chaos resulting from Donald Trump's seemingly out-of-the-blue decision to withdraw U.S. troops from their positions in Kurdish-held Syria, greenlighting an all-out Turkish invasion, continues to grow. Trump's move was so precipitous that U.S. forces in the region were caught completely unaware. That includes U.S. nuclear forces.

As reported by The New York Times: "[O]ver the weekend, State and Energy Department officials were quietly reviewing plans for evacuating roughly 50 tactical nuclear weapons that the United States had long stored, under American control, at Incirlik Air Base in Turkey."

They didn't move them, the Times reports. "Those weapons, one senior official said, were now essentially Erdogan's hostages."

What happens to those 50 nuclear weapons now is a bit dicey. Turkish forces have been firing at U.S. troops in Syria—or were, until Trump responded by ordering a full retreat, fleeing the Turkish advance. There is word that Turkish-allied forces have been releasing ISIS prisoners as they advance, as well. U.S. military officials now have to decide whether to leave the nuclear weapons in Turkey, under the assumption that U.S.-Turkish relations will not collapse completely in coming days, or hastily fly them out.

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2019/10/14/1892405/-U-S-military-keeps-50-nuclear-weapons-on-Turkish-airbase-Now-they-re-Erdogan-s-hostages

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U.S. military keeps 50 nuclear weapons on Turkish airbase, and now they're 'Erdogan's hostages' (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Oct 2019 OP
I have to say I'm not really concerned about this... ExciteBike66 Oct 2019 #1
Erdogan is a religious loon, would not bank on anything with that nutcase. sunonmars Oct 2019 #3
Turkey is releasing ISIS fighters as they advance. 5X Oct 2019 #8
Were the lead actors in this play rational, I'd agree. LanternWaste Oct 2019 #10
Oh good. underpants Oct 2019 #2
I say we take off and nuke the entire site from orbit. Anon-C Oct 2019 #4
You're a goddamned genius. ret5hd Oct 2019 #12
I heard somewhere they have them, yet not the detonators. dewsgirl Oct 2019 #5
I would imagine they have some remote disabling mechanism, be stupid not to put that in there. sunonmars Oct 2019 #6
We can only hope. dewsgirl Oct 2019 #7
Not to worry. Those are safely stored and unusable MineralMan Oct 2019 #9
They definitely need to be moved out of Turkey. roamer65 Oct 2019 #11

ExciteBike66

(2,358 posts)
1. I have to say I'm not really concerned about this...
Tue Oct 15, 2019, 03:03 PM
Oct 2019

I just can't see Turkey taking any actions in regard to these nukes; it would start a hot war with the most powerful nation on earth (and her allies in Europe).

5X

(3,972 posts)
8. Turkey is releasing ISIS fighters as they advance.
Tue Oct 15, 2019, 03:11 PM
Oct 2019

If they are doing that, they are likely joining the Turkish ranks.
If the Turks than get their hands on that base, than so does ISIS.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
10. Were the lead actors in this play rational, I'd agree.
Tue Oct 15, 2019, 03:18 PM
Oct 2019

However, Erdoğan is a despot, Putin a thug, and Trump an idiot.

As difficult to apply rational thought to irrational idiots as it is to apply discipline and organization to toddlers.

dewsgirl

(14,961 posts)
5. I heard somewhere they have them, yet not the detonators.
Tue Oct 15, 2019, 03:08 PM
Oct 2019

I don't know if they just put that out there, as not to cause a panic. It's hard to tell what is truth anymore.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
9. Not to worry. Those are safely stored and unusable
Tue Oct 15, 2019, 03:17 PM
Oct 2019

by anyone other than our military.

The Turks will not attack Incirlik. Not a chance. They are still part of NATO, after all.

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
11. They definitely need to be moved out of Turkey.
Tue Oct 15, 2019, 03:22 PM
Oct 2019

Even if they cannot be detonated, they still have fissile material and have design attributes that non-nuclear nations would greatly desire.

Load them up and ship them out. Shoot any Turks that would try to stop it.

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