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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(108,026 posts)
Tue Oct 15, 2019, 02:55 PM Oct 2019

Michele Bachmann: Climate Change Is a Fraud Because 'God Says We Will Never Be Flooded'

Former Minnesota congresswoman Michele Bachmann appeared on Jan Markell’s “Understanding The Times” radio program last weekend, where she urged pastors to start preaching the “truth” from their pulpits that climate change represents no threat to humanity because God said in the Bible, after Noah’s flood, that he would never again destroy the world with water.

Bachmann said that in her capacity as “pastor to the United Nations,” she has met with dozens of ambassadors “and every single one of them talk[s] about climate change.”

“I would encourage pastors to start preaching on this issue of climate change and God’s view of climate change,” Bachmann said. “The very covenant was established by God and Noah. And that covenant was that sin was so gross in the world that God had to bring about judgment, and then he had to bring about salvation, and from there came Abraham. God put a rainbow in the sky as a sign of his covenant and he said very clearly to the entire world, ‘Never again will there be judgment, never again will the world be flooded.'”

“You can take it to the bank, that’s God’s word,” she added. “And what is it these frauds tells us with climate change? That the world’s going to be flooded. Isn’t it interesting they’re saying it’s going to be another catastrophe, it’s flooding, we’re going to be flooded? God says we will never be flooded.”

https://www.rightwingwatch.org/post/michele-bachmann-climate-change-is-a-fraud-because-god-says-we-will-never-be-flooded/

Crawl back in your hole woman.

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Michele Bachmann: Climate Change Is a Fraud Because 'God Says We Will Never Be Flooded' (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Oct 2019 OP
Can she really be that stupid? jberryhill Oct 2019 #1
Yes. JHB Oct 2019 #8
It's not always clear if right wingers really believe the nonsense they spew, but... Garrett78 Oct 2019 #17
Yes she can, Wellstone ruled Oct 2019 #27
Yes, she really can. The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2019 #29
Hell, they caught her on a smart day! 11 Bravo Oct 2019 #32
I'd say more disingenuous than stupid. Crunchy Frog Oct 2019 #43
Having grown up in her district and knowing her base NickB79 Oct 2019 #47
Weapons-grade stoopid. lastlib Oct 2019 #56
God isn't going to cause a flood. We are. Takket Oct 2019 #2
Bingo NickB79 Oct 2019 #48
Obviously never read that book of the bible called Genesis..... sunonmars Oct 2019 #3
Yippee - one of the nutcases who made Trump seem normal to the warped right. polichick Oct 2019 #4
I wish God would say ... CatMor Oct 2019 #5
This message was self-deleted by its author geralmar Oct 2019 #6
Please Lord save me from dolts Sanity Claws Oct 2019 #7
GOD figured his creations were smart enough not to destroy their environment. Midnight Writer Oct 2019 #9
Pastor to the United Nations? Midnightwalk Oct 2019 #10
If she's right, then the myriad of local floods that happen every year, Crunchy Frog Oct 2019 #45
I can't be the only one hoping to someday see the Bachmann house under 6 ft. of water. Vinca Oct 2019 #11
I wouldn't wish this on someone normally, but I confess that would be a wonderful thing to see and Pachamama Oct 2019 #52
As if durablend Oct 2019 #59
I thought I was reading the Onion C_U_L8R Oct 2019 #12
A few years ago Pew found that 30 million adults expected Hortensis Oct 2019 #13
I've seen where about half the country expects Jesus to return within their lifetime. Garrett78 Oct 2019 #18
Remembering, we had a lot of Mormons in our California Hortensis Oct 2019 #20
Remember when she passed along the anecdote...on t.v....of a mother who came to her Karadeniz Oct 2019 #14
God said he wouldn't destroy the ENTIRE world. Girard442 Oct 2019 #15
I know, right? Does she think no one dies in floods? jberryhill Oct 2019 #16
This message was self-deleted by its author elocs Oct 2019 #24
What about famine and pestilence? scarytomcat Oct 2019 #61
Well crap. I was hoping I could cancel my flood insurance. dameatball Oct 2019 #28
True. Caliman73 Oct 2019 #40
This is why a Christian theocratic USA will never work JPK Oct 2019 #55
Thank you. You said it so I don't have to. n/t phylny Oct 2019 #54
Who keeps putting microphones in front of stupid? superpatriotman Oct 2019 #19
Apparently the bar of stupidity can be even lower than it was at any given time. BSdetect Oct 2019 #21
yes there's no scientific explanation for rainbows njhoneybadger Oct 2019 #22
Is she really that simple? malaise Oct 2019 #23
Is "simple" the right word for... JHB Oct 2019 #34
I was being as kind as possible malaise Oct 2019 #37
Bachmann shanti Oct 2019 #25
Box of Rocks JDC Oct 2019 #26
Sack of hammers Hekate Oct 2019 #39
the irony here is that death can be minimized *if* we pay attention and prepare. unblock Oct 2019 #30
I guess those communities that got flooded don't count. LiberalFighter Oct 2019 #31
Obvisouly she did not talk to Noah............... nt mitch96 Oct 2019 #33
Yes Princess BuyBull Thumper,.. now please fuck off ! magicarpet Oct 2019 #35
Did she sleep through the last 5 floods in Houston? yellowdogintexas Oct 2019 #36
That must be why Ken Ham from the Noah's Ark Theme Park filed flood insurance claims Blue Owl Oct 2019 #38
One would have hoped... Docreed2003 Oct 2019 #41
What a liar. No one has ever suggested that the entire world will be flooded. Crunchy Frog Oct 2019 #42
Let her stay out of sight. There's no reason to keep dragging her out to show to everyone struggle4progress Oct 2019 #44
Except for that one time when the flood did happen right? Initech Oct 2019 #46
Stupid, and too lazy to read the paper dalton99a Oct 2019 #49
I think a flood washed away most of her brain. NCLefty Oct 2019 #50
Bachman started in politics as a volunteer for Jimmy Carter tirebiter Oct 2019 #51
Really, Michele?!!? I guess you haven't read about all the flooding this year in the Midwest..... secondwind Oct 2019 #53
HA well that's reassuring "You can take it to the bank, that's God's word" lunasun Oct 2019 #57
My rabbi just addressed that as the as a last line in one of the High Holy day speeches karynnj Oct 2019 #58
Rep. John Shimkus said this back in 2010... ehrnst Oct 2019 #60

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
17. It's not always clear if right wingers really believe the nonsense they spew, but...
Tue Oct 15, 2019, 03:50 PM
Oct 2019

...we can be sure that millions do believe it.

Bachmann may just be nutty enough to believe her own propaganda.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
27. Yes she can,
Tue Oct 15, 2019, 04:47 PM
Oct 2019

tangled with this ignorant twit on several Housing issues years ago in B-Park. Local press loved her as a interview,lots of Cleavage and sarcastic verbiage.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,732 posts)
29. Yes, she really can.
Tue Oct 15, 2019, 04:55 PM
Oct 2019

She has demonstrated weapons-grade stupidity on many occasions; here in Minnesota we can reminisce about - for example - the time during her state senate career when she hid in the shrubbery outside the state capitol to avoid having to talk to gay people.

Crunchy Frog

(26,587 posts)
43. I'd say more disingenuous than stupid.
Tue Oct 15, 2019, 07:07 PM
Oct 2019

I don't think she believes her own crap. Just trying to manipulate the rubes to benefit corporate interests.

Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Midnightwalk

(3,131 posts)
10. Pastor to the United Nations?
Tue Oct 15, 2019, 03:19 PM
Oct 2019

I guess I missed that one back in 2017

Former congresswoman Michele Bachmann says her new ministry to the U.N. is “a vital part of preparing the world for the End Times.”


I can’t tell if this is just some self annointed nut jobs or if they are part of the administration. Either way we can all be proud of her mission

I believe that God is starting a new thing, and because the time is short before Christ comes again to this earth, He is giving everyone one more chance.

There was an attempt in the book of Genesis for all of the nations to come together and to raise a fist against God in pride and arrogance. It was called the Tower of Babel, and God dispersed the people at the Tower of Babel. Never again did all the nations of the earth come together until the League of Nations, under President Woodrow Wilson. That broke up, it didn’t work and then we have World War II and the U.N. was started and it’s been an organization that has had a lot of negative repercussions because it is not under a holy authority of a mighty God and there’s been vain imaginations of a fist again against an almighty God.


[link:https://www.patheos.com/blogs/progressivesecularhumanist/2017/08/michele-bachmann-named-pastor-united-nations/|]

Yep, nothing embarrassing about that tripe.

So god said no more flooding ever. But god is pissed and the apocalypse is around the corner. But at least we won’t be flooded

She shouldn’t worry about flooding she should worry about looking up and drowning in the rain.

Crunchy Frog

(26,587 posts)
45. If she's right, then the myriad of local floods that happen every year,
Tue Oct 15, 2019, 07:17 PM
Oct 2019

Including to the yokels who believe her crap, aren't actually real. All believers should drop their flood insurance, since it goes against the word of Gawd!!!1!

Pachamama

(16,887 posts)
52. I wouldn't wish this on someone normally, but I confess that would be a wonderful thing to see and
Wed Oct 16, 2019, 02:22 AM
Oct 2019

....then ask her about it and why God did it....

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
13. A few years ago Pew found that 30 million adults expected
Tue Oct 15, 2019, 03:29 PM
Oct 2019

the world to end any day now, and that most of them were positive about it, some even looking forward to it.

Of course. That'll fix the Democrats for good, with God getting the final vote to fly them all up to heaven and leave us to suffering and death during Armageddon.

Their very belated awareness of the climate crises only confirms what they believe. It's common here in the Bible Belt for people to allude to End Times when discussing problems, as if it's their answer and they won't have to worry about trying to survive fires, floods, drought, killer heat, disease, even famine, sweeping over Georgia.

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
18. I've seen where about half the country expects Jesus to return within their lifetime.
Tue Oct 15, 2019, 03:54 PM
Oct 2019

That classifies as an epidemic.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
20. Remembering, we had a lot of Mormons in our California
Tue Oct 15, 2019, 04:23 PM
Oct 2019

neighorhood, and their kids who grew up with ours were promised they'd see Jesus's return within their lifetimes. Their church was established to prepare the planet for the Second Coming and was finishing up the job.

Small piece of the "epidemic," but the Republican nominee in 2012 was one of theirs. That's a big part of why I felt sure Romney believed, by the time he became the nominee, that God had chosen him to preside over Armageddon from the WH/Pentagon and over the establishment of his Kingdom at the site Mormons purchased for it near Independence, MO. He held the Cold War belief that Satan's armies were massing in Russia and Iran and promised to ask for an extra $2B for the military that they hadn't requested. Some people around him didn't talk about any of that specifically but said that (strikingly!) even his top people weren't sure what his agenda was (he spouted different ones to different audiences) and that he was peculiarly confident he'd win and then absolutely stunned when he didn't.

Worth remembering with him hanging around in the wings waiting for God to call again. Also that many Americans had no problem with him serving god before the people and constitution, while the press acted as if it was against both their journalistic principles and good manners to discuss religious goals.

Karadeniz

(22,535 posts)
14. Remember when she passed along the anecdote...on t.v....of a mother who came to her
Tue Oct 15, 2019, 03:36 PM
Oct 2019

To spread the word that her daughter was made retarded or something by a vaccination. She also screeched about death panels every chance she could back then. And didn't she or her husband get dual citizenship for tax purposes?

Girard442

(6,075 posts)
15. God said he wouldn't destroy the ENTIRE world.
Tue Oct 15, 2019, 03:37 PM
Oct 2019

He never promised not to majorly eff up parts of it.

Bachman should actually read the Bible some time.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
16. I know, right? Does she think no one dies in floods?
Tue Oct 15, 2019, 03:46 PM
Oct 2019

Or does she think there is someone forecasting thousands of feet of sea level rise?

Response to Girard442 (Reply #15)

scarytomcat

(1,706 posts)
61. What about famine and pestilence?
Wed Oct 16, 2019, 10:28 AM
Oct 2019

we won't die from flooding or rising tides
everything else caused by warming will do it
here have a big mac die sooner

Caliman73

(11,738 posts)
40. True.
Tue Oct 15, 2019, 05:44 PM
Oct 2019

Even if you accept the Bible and are religious, the utter lack of understanding by Bachmann is amazing.

There is nothing stating that there would no longer be any flooding ever. Climate scientists are not saying that the earth will be flooded, killing all life. Sea level rise affects most people because most people on earth live near the coasts as that is where there is food and access to trade routes. Flooding at the coasts will push people inland which will strain already strained resources. Most people will likely die from famine, disease, and war, not from flooding and not all people on earth will die but many will.

I grew up Catholic and went to school from 2nd grade to High School in Catholic school. While there are a ton of problems with the Church that I won't even mention, the idea was always that you follow the main teachings attributed to Christ, which were to love God with your whole heart, mind, and soul; and that you treat others as you would want to be treated. There are obviously a lot more rules, but you are supposed to take care of others, protect the vulnerable, care for your environment, and be an example of Love to others.

There are many types of Christianity which is the whole problem, everyone interprets the same book (or changed it) to suit their desires. You have people ministering to homeless, providing meals and shelter, then you have idiots like Bachmann running around denouncing science. You have people like Bishop Romero being killed for fighting against corruption, and people like Newt Gingrich defending the most corrupt president in the last 70 years.

JPK

(651 posts)
55. This is why a Christian theocratic USA will never work
Wed Oct 16, 2019, 07:31 AM
Oct 2019

Which sect of Christianity will rule, be in charge? They might set up a council to smooth crap over but eventually the various factions will fight for their brand and eventually it will break down into open warfare like it did in Northern Ireland. There are literally hundreds if not thousands of different sects in Christianity. On top of that, the need to take into count the other religions that will still be present along with the non religious. How will the Christians marginalize those that are not believers? I'm sure they will have something to say as well and if they're ignored there will be open warfare. You know non Christians can buy guns too.

JHB

(37,160 posts)
34. Is "simple" the right word for...
Tue Oct 15, 2019, 05:21 PM
Oct 2019

...people whose thought processes resemble a Rube Goldberg machine?

unblock

(52,253 posts)
30. the irony here is that death can be minimized *if* we pay attention and prepare.
Tue Oct 15, 2019, 04:59 PM
Oct 2019

deliberate ignorance of the sort she exhibits is exactly what will lead to the deaths she's claiming can't happen.

if we build protections from floods, stronger housing, and encourage people to move to higher ground, many of the deaths from rising waters can be avoided.

but if we insist on pretending that what's obviously happening can't happen, then many people will die, all for the sake of a stubborn misinterpretation of a biblical sentence.

Docreed2003

(16,863 posts)
41. One would have hoped...
Tue Oct 15, 2019, 05:49 PM
Oct 2019

Being exposed to so many cultures at the UN would have broadened her horizons a bit, but I suppose that's just too much to ask. How bout this Michelle, God didn't lie, we're burning the fuck up on this planet, flooding is just a small side effect....how about that? It's amazing these morons can believe this crap

Crunchy Frog

(26,587 posts)
42. What a liar. No one has ever suggested that the entire world will be flooded.
Tue Oct 15, 2019, 07:05 PM
Oct 2019

There's not enough water in the world to cover all the landmasses, even if all the ice melted, which has happened in the past.

It's very likely that there will be a substantial increase in sea levels, and flooding of coastal areas. Not the same thing

It sounds like, according to her theology, there's no such thing as localized flooding.

Does she know what her god says about lying?

dalton99a

(81,515 posts)
49. Stupid, and too lazy to read the paper
Tue Oct 15, 2019, 10:00 PM
Oct 2019

Front-page story over the weekend: The loons may soon be leaving Minnesota for good because the lakes are getting too warm


NCLefty

(3,678 posts)
50. I think a flood washed away most of her brain.
Wed Oct 16, 2019, 01:22 AM
Oct 2019

"Good news, everyone! God already murdered all of us once! But now he LOVES us and super promises to never murder us all again*! In the meantime, enjoy your cancer and miscarriages, just 2 of the things we brought on ourselves because 1 ancestor ate the wrong apple."


(*in the same way)

tirebiter

(2,537 posts)
51. Bachman started in politics as a volunteer for Jimmy Carter
Wed Oct 16, 2019, 01:36 AM
Oct 2019

Because he brought being a Baptist in as a positive point. Like most other evangelicals she bailed on being a Democrat in 1980.

secondwind

(16,903 posts)
53. Really, Michele?!!? I guess you haven't read about all the flooding this year in the Midwest.....
Wed Oct 16, 2019, 03:43 AM
Oct 2019

What about Hurricane Dorian, Michele??

karynnj

(59,504 posts)
58. My rabbi just addressed that as the as a last line in one of the High Holy day speeches
Wed Oct 16, 2019, 10:08 AM
Oct 2019

that made a strong case that we need to act on climate change. Her comment. The Noah story says that God will not destroy the earth - but we are now at a point where collectively WE could destroy the earth that we were charged with taking care of.

So, even if someone. which is not the case here, took literally everything in the Bible, this disputes Bachmann's argument.

 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
60. Rep. John Shimkus said this back in 2010...
Wed Oct 16, 2019, 10:18 AM
Oct 2019
Rep. John Shimkus is standing by a controversial comment that global warming isn't something to worry about because God said he wouldn't destroy the Earth after Noah's flood.

The Illinois Republican running for the powerful perch atop the House Energy and Commerce Committee told POLITICO on Wednesday that his understanding of the Bible reaffirms his belief that government shouldn't be in the business of trying to address rising greenhouse gas emissions.


https://www.politico.com/story/2010/11/shimkus-cites-genesis-on-climate-044958
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