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Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
Tue Oct 15, 2019, 06:42 AM Oct 2019

Oh, baby, OH...I do believe Ms. Fiona Hill hung America's Fixer Rudy AND Trump out to dry-eye-EYE.

Trump’s ex-Russia adviser told impeachment investigators of Giuliani’s efforts in Ukraine

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/trumps-former-top-russia-adviser-to-testify-in-house-impeachment-probe/2019/10/14/e6015c1c-ee34-11e9-8693-f487e46784aa_story.html

Fiona Hill, the White House’s former top Russia adviser, told impeachment investigators on Monday that Rudolph W. Giuliani, the president’s personal lawyer, ran a shadow foreign policy in Ukraine that circumvented U.S. officials and career diplomats in order to personally benefit President Trump, according to people familiar with her testimony.

Hill, who served as the senior official for Russia and Europe on the National Security Council, was the latest witness in a fast-moving impeachment inquiry focused on whether the president abused his office by using the promise of military aid and diplomatic support to pressure Ukraine into investigating his political rivals.

In a closed-door session that lasted roughly 10 hours, Hill told lawmakers that she confronted Gordon Sondland, the U.S. ambassador to the European Union, about Giuliani’s activities which, she testified, were not coordinated with the officials responsible for carrying out U.S. foreign policy, these people said, speaking on the condition of anonymity to disclose details of her deposition.

Sondland played a leading role in the Trump administration’s efforts to pressure Ukraine to open investigations of the president’s political rivals, text messages obtained and later released by House Democrats show. Three congressional committees are now probing how Trump pressured Ukraine to investigate former vice president Joe Biden and his son, Hunter, who was on the board of a Ukrainian energy company, as well as a debunked theory that Ukraine interfered in the 2016 U.S. election in an attempt to damage Trump’s candidacy.
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Oh, baby, OH...I do believe Ms. Fiona Hill hung America's Fixer Rudy AND Trump out to dry-eye-EYE. (Original Post) Miles Archer Oct 2019 OP
The news keeps saying, True Blue American Oct 2019 #1
I think the tide is turning, gab13by13 Oct 2019 #2
Why do you think the Senate will convict? OliverQ Oct 2019 #5
Public opinion is growing for impeachment. gab13by13 Oct 2019 #6
republicans don't give a whit about public opinion........ joshdawg Oct 2019 #11
Truth oswaldactedalone Oct 2019 #12
So far, the most powerful evidence was presented in closed door hearings. Eyeball_Kid Oct 2019 #13
Silence is not defense Stinky The Clown Oct 2019 #14
McTurtle sent out FUNDRAISERS stating he would not convict Skittles Oct 2019 #15
OMG!!! YES!!! wnylib Oct 2019 #3
I saw an interview with a GOP Congressman who was in the hearing and he chastised his fellow Vinca Oct 2019 #4
Gym Jacket Off Jordan only wants to showboat for the TV cameras. Miles Archer Oct 2019 #7
This was a deposition. SaveOurDemocracy Oct 2019 #9
K&R! calimary Oct 2019 #8
There's the real deep state. tanyev Oct 2019 #10

gab13by13

(21,359 posts)
2. I think the tide is turning,
Tue Oct 15, 2019, 07:35 AM
Oct 2019

I now have hope that the Senate will convict.

Speaker Pelosi is a genius, but president Pelosi would be grand.

 

OliverQ

(3,363 posts)
5. Why do you think the Senate will convict?
Tue Oct 15, 2019, 07:59 AM
Oct 2019

Pretty much every Republican is still defending Trump. They don't care that all this is coming out.

gab13by13

(21,359 posts)
6. Public opinion is growing for impeachment.
Tue Oct 15, 2019, 08:13 AM
Oct 2019

Wait until the hearings are done in public and I look for an avalanche. When Trump is no longer a help to Senators they will vote to impeach to survive.

joshdawg

(2,648 posts)
11. republicans don't give a whit about public opinion........
Tue Oct 15, 2019, 08:45 AM
Oct 2019

never have, never will.
republicans serve themselves, not the public.

Eyeball_Kid

(7,432 posts)
13. So far, the most powerful evidence was presented in closed door hearings.
Tue Oct 15, 2019, 09:09 AM
Oct 2019

This is where both parties can question the witnesses without cameras, so there is no need for performance art. I'm suspecting that the evidence of impeachable offenses is so overwhelming that GOPer reps can't avoid the inevitable. We aren't hearing much from the GOPer committee members, are we? They're fairly quiet, and that's a good sign.

This, coupled with Trumpy's foreign policy destruction, has sent the GOP into apoplexy. They can't keep riding this pony, and they are starting to recognize what's on the horizon.

Stinky The Clown

(67,808 posts)
14. Silence is not defense
Tue Oct 15, 2019, 09:14 AM
Oct 2019

In actuality very few Republicans Are publicly defending Trump. Reports are that privately they are looking for ways to thread the needle and distance themselves from Trump while keeping their Looney Tunes bass happy.

Skittles

(153,169 posts)
15. McTurtle sent out FUNDRAISERS stating he would not convict
Wed Oct 16, 2019, 01:49 AM
Oct 2019

Last edited Wed Oct 16, 2019, 08:05 PM - Edit history (1)

BEFORE hearing the evidence

Republicans DO NOT CARE about public opinion, and they care even LESS about America

edited to add:

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212588312

Vinca

(50,278 posts)
4. I saw an interview with a GOP Congressman who was in the hearing and he chastised his fellow
Tue Oct 15, 2019, 07:52 AM
Oct 2019

Republicans like Gym Jordan for wanting the hearing to be held in public. He said they would not be happy if the hearing had been public. Now I'm wishing the hearings were public.

Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
7. Gym Jacket Off Jordan only wants to showboat for the TV cameras.
Tue Oct 15, 2019, 08:25 AM
Oct 2019

Showboat and attempt to discredit.

One trick pony, or more accurately, one trick horse's ass.

SaveOurDemocracy

(4,400 posts)
9. This was a deposition.
Tue Oct 15, 2019, 08:29 AM
Oct 2019

All the facts will be on the record, then come the public hearings. At least, that's my understanding.

tanyev

(42,566 posts)
10. There's the real deep state.
Tue Oct 15, 2019, 08:41 AM
Oct 2019

When you think of all the power that is at the president's fingertips, there is absolutely no reason to assemble your own shadow government....unless you are trying to do things that are self-serving and illegal.

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