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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsGOOD POST for Chris Matthews thread. . CHRIS MATTHEWS ..... RECOVERING FROM PROTATE CANCER SURGERY.
Last edited Mon Oct 14, 2019, 08:57 PM - Edit history (1)
calimary
(81,312 posts)chillfactor
(7,576 posts)for a speedy recovery...
MFGsunny
(2,356 posts)The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,732 posts)Just a little nit I have to pick. Prostrate means lying stretched out, face down, which isn't how they probably do prostate surgery on that little gland among your man-parts.
elleng
(130,972 posts)Glad to see you said it. SO many here have gotten it wrong.
dewsgirl
(14,961 posts)Alzheimer's.
Maru Kitteh
(28,340 posts)Now we send Kevin to make sure her lawn's mowed and the walk gets scooped.
dewsgirl
(14,961 posts)Marcuse
(7,488 posts)LiberalArkie
(15,719 posts)dewsgirl
(14,961 posts)MontanaMama
(23,322 posts)Wiping off my iPad thank you very much.
mcar
(42,334 posts)We'd have a free prostate cancer screening every year. Used to drive me crazy when people would call to make an appointment for the "prostrate" screening. Also, and I'm not making this up, every year women would call to make an appointment for themselves. We would have to explain to them that women don't have that part.
NCLefty
(3,678 posts)Moostache
(9,895 posts)I may disagree with him a lot but I hope he recovers.
JaneQPublic
(7,113 posts)But speedy recovery to Chris,
SaulofTucson
(34 posts)hlthe2b
(102,292 posts)Last edited Mon Oct 14, 2019, 09:46 PM - Edit history (1)
is doing ok.
UTUSN
(70,708 posts)Last edited Mon Oct 14, 2019, 10:26 PM - Edit history (1)
Tweety is one of my pet peeves (not wishing him ill), and therefore have monitored him for a couple of decades, and know that several years ago he was first diagnosed via a hospitalization with the glucose at 300+.
And back then some empathetic posters were all charitably upset like it was a death verdict. I remember posting that many millions of us have diabetes and either *manage* it with testing & whatever, but that sympathy for Tweety is not a zero-to-120 issue.
******Now. On to prostate cancer. (I've also had/have that.) Yip, when the diagnosis is burst on you, it is a black-out horrendous event. I'm no expert on any of these things, just how I was impacted at the time. So, getting a cancer diagnosis is a *SHOCK*. Then things happen. Choices. Radiation or chemo or surgery. Then we learn that our medical professionals see this every damned day. So, really, all the choices are pretty much already clearly MADE. So for my (and I guess everybody's?) prostate cancer, the first thing I was told was that I would be sent to a surgeon/urologist to lay it all out. On first sight he said I was not a candidate for surgery because of my weight, that (no choice) I was headed to radiation. Fine. They didn't explain whatever. Now, going on 6 years later my family doctor told me that radiation is the same final effect as surgery. Basically, the prostate is burned out vs being cut out. Fine.
Let's see, John KERRY has had whatever choice for his prostate cancer. Just today, even after seeing Elton JOHN's "Rocketman" movie, which supposedly was his autobio pic, he said on a talk show spot that he had prostate cancer and went the surgery route, with the other detail that he didn't care about the end-of-sex because he "had plenty of sex" (in his life) so doesn't need any more. Fine. (I didn't know that.)
That's another thing one learns, that the doctors don't really tell you stuff as stuff is happening (although they later say they did). And our our medical professionals are severely over-burdened. And when you go to the reception areas to get your treatment, the room is *BURSTING* with patients SO what makes YOU special? And many many others have far more severe conditions and past treatments than I had. So, HERE'S THE THING: i couldn't even feel sorry for myself. Many are worse off.
As for Tweety (and Elton JOHN?), well, they have the *TOTAL MAX, GOLD CARD, PREMIUM HEALTH INSURANCE*. i'm not saying they don't deserve stuff, just that they will be as all right as all right can be, no matter what the outcome.
Am I saying something class-envious here? My opinion is "no".
**********QUOTE*******
https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/type-1-diabetes/symptoms-causes/syc-20353011
Type 1 diabetes, once known as juvenile diabetes or insulin-dependent diabetes, is a chronic condition in which the pancreas produces little or no insulin. Insulin is a hormone needed to allow sugar (glucose) to enter cells to produce energy.
Different factors, including genetics and some viruses, may contribute to type 1 diabetes. Although type 1 diabetes usually appears during childhood or adolescence, it can develop in adults.
Despite active research, type 1 diabetes has no cure. Treatment focuses on managing blood sugar levels with insulin, diet and lifestyle to prevent complications.
********UNQUOTE*********
hlthe2b
(102,292 posts)A guest with him interjected "childhood? and he nodded. So, while I am very fully aware of the differences in Type 1 and 2 diabetes, since there was no follow-up and nothing has been written in any interviews I've seen, I took that at face value. Now, if you have seen something documenting that he was first diagnosed a few years ago while hospitalized, that clearly suggests nonjuvenile diabetes, though he still may be insulin-dependant. As you know, tweety doesn't listen to his guests so the fact he nodded but did not correct might well be nothing more than he wasn't really listening.
So, based on what you have seen reported, I'd guess he is suffering not from juvenile diabetes (and thus not type I), although it remains possible he is insulin-dependant if other alternative meds have not conferred good control as can occur in Type II as well.
UTUSN
(70,708 posts)That's what I saw and heard on his show, on MSNBC, back when (several years ago as I said) he was diagnosed and absent from the show, that he didn't know he was diabetic, had (whatever physical event to hospitalization with 300+ glucose).
As a non-medical/non-professional, I say this would make it Type 2, especially since he lived all his life schmoozing cocktails without a clue until it reached its climax/crisis point.
No, I don't have documentation. I'm pretty reliable in reporting/parroting what I see and hear on t.v.
My real point is the "sympathy" vs empathy that some of our beautiful DUers react with for Dear Tweety. As I said, he irks me, has been called here by other DUers as a "weathervane" and "When he's on our side there's nobody better." Our politics aside, his health is like any other human being's.
*******ON EDIT: I have ZERO idea whether having malaria is a factor between Types 1 & 2 diabetes. But, haha, malaria would be a plus for Tweety in his self-resume to make him "heroic". Like when he said that in the Peace Corps in Africa, "I walked the same ground as CHURCHILL" or when the Capitol policemen were shot in 199? he suddenly discovered he had worked as a Capitol Policemen (3 months, rent-a-cop).
Oh, and he said, years ago, that he ONLY joined the Peace Corps JUST to avoid going to Vietnam (not because of idealism), and that his family were "cloth coat Republicans," and that his only connection to JFK was "pride of Irish Catholicism" (not idealism, ideology), and a couple of his siblings are practicing Repukes. And I *do* have documentation (my much re-posted profile here) of this stuff. Just what I've seen and heard.
BumRushDaShow
(129,092 posts)His brother Jim used to be one of 3 Montgomery County, PA County Commissioners (as a Republican and chair of the Commissioners in a county that rims Philly), during the time when that county was more red (Commissioner breakdown was 2 Rs + 1 D). It's now solidly purple and going blue where Democrats now control the Commissioners 2 (D) - 1 (R).
(he was caught up in a perjury scandal and had to resign but later had his record cleared)
UTUSN
(70,708 posts)I don't have an animus towards Tweety, certainly wish as well for him as for anybody's health, just want a non-sentimentalized perspective on his health compared to the millions of people with the same things and considering he has the best insurance and care there is.
*** Maybe I didn't 'get" the "GOOD POST for Chris Matthews thread" in the o.p., that the thread was supposed to be *only* for non-critical posts, and I should have stayed out of here.
BumRushDaShow
(129,092 posts)including from me.
However no matter - he is who he is and whether it's him or anyone else having to deal with prostate problems (and I remember reading somewhere that it was almost inevitable that most men will eventually contract some form of it), the hope is that it is not an aggressive form of that cancer that has taken down far too many (including one of my favorite actors - Bill Bixby).
UTUSN
(70,708 posts)will be able to clarify whether the insulin Rubicon changes things over to Type 1. 'course, we don't know whether Tweety is insulin dependent.
hlthe2b
(102,292 posts)(frequently can be controlled with a variety of other newer drugs as well as diet and weight loss).
If you read my previous post I agreed with you that it is Type II, given it was diagnosed at the time of his malaria hospitalization.
Oh, and just for completeness sakes, Type I is ALWAYS insulin-dependant until such time of a successful pancreatic transplant, though they are not an option for most.
UTUSN
(70,708 posts)whether insulin-dependency would shift things over from 2 to 1. But no biggie for me by this point. G'night.
Tracyjo
(729 posts)Hope he'll be ok. As mad as he makes me sometimes, I still like the guy.
dewsgirl
(14,961 posts)lostnfound
(16,180 posts)Hotler
(11,425 posts)dem4decades
(11,296 posts)malaise
(269,054 posts)Get well soon Tweety
The Wizard
(12,545 posts)a kennedy
(29,672 posts)EveHammond13
(2,855 posts)Maru Kitteh
(28,340 posts)What about my cat? So many questions.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)I don't know about cats.
Maru Kitteh
(28,340 posts)Blue_true
(31,261 posts)orleans
(34,057 posts)ChubbyStar
(3,191 posts)FakeNoose
(32,645 posts)Maybe an announcement was made on MSNBC, but I didn't hear anything.
Good luck and speedy recovery Chris! Hope you're back on your feet soon.
trueblue2007
(17,228 posts)GoCubsGo
(32,086 posts)irisblue
(32,980 posts)Blue_true
(31,261 posts)For the first time in my life I have a family member that has cancer. To hear that was shocking and caused my mind to freeze up for several minutes as I could not do anything to stop my mind from spinning. Fortunately the prognosis is encouraging.
Volaris
(10,272 posts)Sounds like he had a problem with his taint and somebody couldn't spell it correctly.
I hope his taint gets better and soon, AND that his prostate surgery went well!
I disagree with his approach I'll admit, but there are occasions when he very much introduces the nail to the Hammer, and I can appreciate that for what it is.
Get well soon, Chris (because if not for Hyde-Tweety, who would we mock as the MSNBC Moderate lol!)!
OnlinePoker
(5,722 posts)Mine came back with a low 0.86 ug/L. Anything less than 3.5 ug/L is good. Of the 6 members of my immediate family, I'm the only one who has never had cancer.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)I had a relative that had a passing PSA and had postate cancer found during a colonoscopy and subsequent tissue assay at a lab.
OnlinePoker
(5,722 posts)I also get a digital check every year just to be sure.
On edit: great...my 4000th post is about a colonoscopy and digital rectal exam.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)It is done professionally and some problems that could kill people can be fixed on the spot. The Gastrointerologist who did my last exam pointed out that polyps that get removed during exams would likely become cancerous if left in place. He also said that the size of a polyp is an indication of it's threat to a person's health.
Maybe people here that are or were Doctors can weigh in, but it may be that the level of a PSA test result can be indicative of the direction of a person's prostate health, maybe a "good" but higher number indicates that the patient need to be retested within a few months or go for an internal exam. At any rate, I am just so happy about stuff that can be found early enough now to save people's lives.
LiberalFighter
(50,947 posts)japple
(9,833 posts)him the best. Please don't spit on any of your caregivers.
Catherine Vincent
(34,490 posts)Speedy recovery, Chris.
trueblue2007
(17,228 posts)PatrickforO
(14,576 posts)LW1977
(1,235 posts)Cant stress that enough! Just found out a guitar legend is getting treatment for throat cancer. Fuck Cancer! Wish more could be done!
orangecrush
(19,572 posts)Polly Hennessey
(6,799 posts)I wish him well.
Hekate
(90,714 posts)Greybnk48
(10,168 posts)My sister and others in our family adore you.
DangerousRhythm
(2,916 posts)I noticed Kornacki was on again in his place (I soon changed it, so I missed the announcement) and wondered if Id missed something about his health. I forgot till now. 🤦🏻?♀️
Tipperary
(6,930 posts)Wow, I just cannot keep up.
Raine
(30,540 posts)he irritates the hell out of me but I'm still pulling for him.
VOX
(22,976 posts)Treated for prostate cancer myself back in 2001. It wasnt a stroll through the park, and yet here I am, 18 years later.
Hope Tweety bounces back soon!
mfcorey1
(11,001 posts)Brainstormy
(2,380 posts)I hope he retires.