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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThe July 25 phone call between Zelensky and Trump, the tip of the iceberg.
I asked @RepRaskin, before he walked in to Fiona Hill deposition, about the accounts theyve been hearing from aides behind closed doors on Ukraine: Essentially everybody is telling us the same thing, which is that the phone call was just the tip of the iceberg on July 25th.
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The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,836 posts)Baitball Blogger
(46,757 posts)with Trump has opened up a basic game of Risk, with only one person playing on the board.
BigmanPigman
(51,627 posts)of talks with Putin. He already warned tRump in public not to release Russian transcripts.
Maraya1969
(22,497 posts)reason
Baitball Blogger
(46,757 posts)president presents a National Security problem.
BigmanPigman
(51,627 posts)like Mitch seems to do, right?
Baitball Blogger
(46,757 posts)safeinOhio
(32,715 posts)tapes from the Nixon investigation for Тяцмр.
stopdiggin
(11,361 posts)these transactions is proven to the satisfaction of a court ahead of time -- thus stripping away some of executive's privilege and immunity. Otherwise, privilege holds and -- no go. (my opinion)
(kind of a Catch -22. Right?)
NewJeffCT
(56,829 posts)between a President and a foreign leader, especially when there are translators involved in the process. EP is supposed to be only for 1 on 1 conversations between a president and an adviser/cabinet member.
The problem is, if Trump claims executive privilege, Congress (or others) would have to sue and then it takes time to get through the courts.
stopdiggin
(11,361 posts)(IMO) Conversation with foreign leaders (or any other leaders) are almost certainly privileged. You are asserting that all presidential communications (outside a small circle of advisers) are available to the Congress?
NewJeffCT
(56,829 posts)from what I understand via Asha Rangappa, because there was an interpreter present when Trump met with Putin either at the G20 or in Helsinki, that conversation is automatically not subjected to Executive Privilege because of the presence of a 3rd person.
stopdiggin
(11,361 posts)scarytomcat
(1,706 posts)having private meetings with no record with foreign leaders. The Records Act says they must be kept
ginnyinWI
(17,276 posts)Trump world has been saturated with Russians, Saudis, Emiratis, Israelis from about 2013. It makes my head spin!
Completely lawless. If you had money or influence, you were in. If caught, lie. Trump is not smart; the people around him are, but some are in prison now. So maybe not that smart!
blugbox
(951 posts)She WILL sink. 'Tis a mathematical certainty.
gratuitous
(82,849 posts)It's going to be difficult to keep the impeachment inquiry focused on just one or two things, because the naked lawlessness of this administration is so rampant. The criminality spills over into just so many other pots.
CaptainTruth
(6,601 posts)They knew it would take an iceberg to sink the Trumptanic, & I believe they started at a very appropriate time.
pangaia
(24,324 posts)They would be national heros...
On another NOTE-
National emergency !
Martial Law !
Suspension of habeas corpus, !
calimary
(81,466 posts)Thats a favorite line my husband and I stole from a Cheech and Chong movie - for many, um, purposes!