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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWow.. I was literally caught in the middle of a female Magat
outburst on the bus this evening!
First time.. so it was kinda special..
These two Filipino boys had helped carry my suitcase on the bus as it was loaded with provisions from Costco.. and I thanked them so much for helping me!
So the bus rolled and we were riding along and they were sitting across from me one seat up.. talking in their native language.. and all of a sudden this woman in the seat behind me yells out.. "SPEAK ENGLISH YOU'RE IN AMERICA NOW!!"
The guys said.. "sorry" Woman on bus.. "Yes you are sorry!"
I turned around and said.. "That's rude.." She said "Damn Right IT iS!"
I said.. "No you're being rude.. I don't care what language they're speaking.. that's their business.
She.. "No, they're Suppose to Be Speaking Proper English!!"
I said.. "Aloha.. that's Hawaiian!"
I told the boys.. "Sorry, she spoke to you that way."
They were so sweet.. I'm glad I was there. I got to yell at a MAGAT!!!
Flaleftist
(3,473 posts)Cha
(297,728 posts)We're all about the Aloha!
But, damn.. there I was in the Twilight Zone courtesy of the psycho..
Ha I just remembered what else I said.. "I've read about people saying things like this but this the first time I've actually heard it!".. I kept giving the boys .. After they left the bus I moved over to their seat so I didn't have to sit in front of her anymore.
Mahalo, Flaletist!
Dorian Gray
(13,501 posts)I'd be living anywhere. But especially in Hawaii. Hawaiian culture is a mishmash of Pacific Islanders/Asian culture. That's what makes the food so special, the spirit so warm, and the culture so fascinating.
I'd have lost my composure.
Holy shit.
Cha
(297,728 posts)surreal.. but they have fox "news" and trump on tv here, too.
Mahalo, Dorian
pandr32
(11,617 posts)What she did was rude and not so long ago would have been unthinkable. Donald Trump happened and encouraged asshats to be proud of their asshatness.
They are here on the Big Island, too.
Good for you for standing up to her and calling her out! We all need to speak out against these awful people.
Aloha!
wryter2000
(46,082 posts)She's in the wrong state.
Towlie
(5,328 posts)People who came to South Florida from the northern USA used to complain that immigrants from Spanish-speaking countries were obligated to learn English, but they hadn't yet realized that learning English doesn't mean forgetting Spanish. Nowadays those immigrants have "bilingual" on their resumes and enjoy a huge edge in the job market, all because they did exactly what the American bigots told them to do.
Bengus81
(6,933 posts)DENVERPOPS
(8,847 posts)I would have had the perfect reply: SPEAK APACHE, PALE FACE.......(My grandmother was pure Apache.......)
emmaverybo
(8,144 posts)people use to speak to each other in! And her ignorance in her monolingualism of the fact that they were speaking Hawaiian!! They speak two languages, at least, and she speaks one, rudeness.
Cha
(297,728 posts)if it wasn't "Proper English" she wasn't having it!
And, you're right.. they're bilingual and she regurgitates trump. She was really out of place on that bus and in Hawaii.
I was shaking on the inside I was so furious.. it's like all the years of the monster came bubbling up.
What a scene.. me and the boys against a MAGAt!
Mahalo, emmaverybo
emmaverybo
(8,144 posts)some mad Maghat b on a bus... Maybe she will stop doing that. You showed the boys they had
nothing to be sorry for, she did.
Cha
(297,728 posts)".. showing them they had nothing to be sorry for.. " Mahalo!
It was just such an amazing little vignette.. everybody was happy.. the boys had their own pile of groceries they bought and they were going home.. Then out the blue this woman starts yelling trumpese like a big loud Bull.. and the mood darkens
I'd love to know what the guys said to each other after they got off the bus. They asked me if I were getting off, too.. they were ready to help me again.
RainCaster
(10,923 posts)I also live in a Navy community and it's not unusual to hear Tagalog in the grocery store. Give 'em hell Cha!
emmaverybo
(8,144 posts)because of prolonged American presence and learning English in school from an early age. These
Speak English racists dont speak any other language themselves. No culture. No manners. No
real education. So they cling to their bigotry.
Cha was a great example to these lovely boys, but I do advise we size up the type of Maghat we confront as some are armed.
Bravo again, Cha.
Cha
(297,728 posts)RainCaster
(10,923 posts)Cha
(297,728 posts)Our electricity just came back on after being off for an hour and a 1/2.. seemed like forever. Flash floods and high winds preceded it.
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,447 posts)If she was capable of looking beyond her nose, she might've been embarassed.
Cha
(297,728 posts)as they come!
Looking back.. I actually enjoyed my extemporaneous opportunity to tell a Magat what for!
bdamomma
(63,923 posts)for being human and compassionate. These MAGATS think they are "entitled" to say such shit they are quite disillusioned.
Cha
(297,728 posts)couldn't believe we had our own little Magat on the bus telling these boys how to speak. I've read about things like this but to actually be living it was like The Twilight Zone.. it's Hawaii for dawg's sake.. we're a melting pot and white people were the intruders.. same with the Mainland and the Native Americans.
Mahalo, bdamomma!
NCLefty
(3,678 posts)Which makes the entire thing ridiculous!
Cha
(297,728 posts)knows only brainwashed racism speak.
Mahalo, NCLefty!
TreasonousBastard
(43,049 posts)claiming the Constitution demanded we speak English.
I gently reminded her that the Constitution says no such thing, and, btw, Puerto Ricans are citizens and entitled to ballots and signage in Spanish if they prefer it.
I also reminded her that her MAGA hat and Trump sweatshirt were considered illegal electioneering within 100' of a polling place.
An historical note-- during the Constitutional Convention an argument was made for a national language. English would have been the obvious choice, but there was a large contingent wanting German because it was the second largest ethnic group and we had fought a war with England.
Fortunately, the entire idea was dropped and we have no official language.
True Blue American
(17,989 posts)At the Polls for years. We would not have allowed them to stay.
I had my Republican head Judge make them leave and come back without the shirt.
That sign says, No politics within 100 feet! He has also chased away groups that strayed too close.
I often wonder what he thinks today. He is a real Christian.
TreasonousBastard
(43,049 posts)True Blue American
(17,989 posts)Who brazenly wore and election shirt. She came back later to vote, sans shirt! in that case it was a school levy.
One year we were so short of volunteers they allowed High school students to earn credits for working. A Nurse came in. One of the students asked for ID. She flipped her Nurses badge at them. They politely asked for her Drivers license so they could enter her address.
She fumed the whole time. Before I handed her the memory card I pushed a sign up form and said, You know we really need volunteers, would you like to sign up?
When she brought the card back she was all smiles. After she left one of the girls said, I can not believe you said that! Laughing. I gave those girls a lesson on how to counter rude people!
I have done that in the grocery,too. A grouchy old woman complained at everything the young clerk did. Finally I told her to quit abusing the young clerk, she did not make enough money to do that. She grumbled, but stopped.
Paka
(2,760 posts)I did not know that.
IronLionZion
(45,541 posts)and the English contingent found that to be way too preposterous because they didn't want 2 languages on everything
TexasTowelie
(112,456 posts)English is Made in America.
Cha
(297,728 posts)I didn't even think of that!
Mahalo, TexasT
mahina
(17,705 posts)So pilau
Good for you Cha. Give em.
Cha
(297,728 posts)I was so mad.. instantly thrown into the MAGAt pit.. I wondered what I would do when I read others talking about their MAGAt experiences..
Well now I know
Mahalo and Aloha, mahina!
Opel_Justwax
(230 posts)too bad Jesus of Nazareth spoke Aramaic.
Cha
(297,728 posts)on the bus and breaking one of the guideline rules that was posted.
Mahalo, Opel_Justwax
DFW
(54,445 posts)The people at the front desk are French, Turkish, Indian, Swedish, Portuguese and Filipino. I only know a little of the Luzon language (Tagalog) and none of the dozen or so other languages spoken in the Philippines. But I stay there often, and can greet every one of them in their own languages. The hotel is in Belgium, and only the manager speaks Flemish, the majority language in Belgium. She has only been there a half year, and her predecessor was a German.
If someone started yelling, "speak (whatever) !!!" everyone there would have thought they had escaped from a loony bin.
I wonder if the MAGAT woman knew that people landed in the Hawaiian Islands some 9 centuries ago, speaking Polynesian before modern English even existed. You could have yelled back, "this is Hawaii, so speak Hawaiian or go back to where you came from!"
ret5hd
(20,524 posts)Watched a guy at a service desk speak (smoothly, not haltingly) Japanese or Chinese to one couple, Spanish to another couple, German to another couple, and English to us. Bam-bam-bam, without missing a beat.
To me, it was amazing and amusing. And you could tell the guy liked his job.
DFW
(54,445 posts)I'm not a hotel worker or anything like that, but I need to be able to switch from English to German to Catalan to Russian to Dutch to French to Swedish to Italian to Spanish without blinking. If you need it on a daily basis, it comes as second nature, and here in Europe, anyone who screams at you for only speaking one language is viewed as having about as much sanity as a naked man in winter screaming at people for wearing clothes.
vsrazdem
(2,177 posts)travel all over the world and I can guarantee you that when the husband and wife, brothers and sisters, or groups go to these places, no one tells them to stop speaking English, your in OUR country now. Disgusting.
brer cat
(24,615 posts)Like it is any of her business what they were saying.
Cha
(297,728 posts)All of a sudden I was in Magat play.. it did not go well for the MAGAT!
Mahalo
magicarpet
(14,175 posts).... to freely proclaim their Nazi concerns.
Loud and proud until confronted.
Thank you for putting a word in edge wise for those young men.
PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,902 posts)I constantly hear people speaking Spanish. I am both in awe of and envious of those who are effortlessly bilingual.
Living here I frequently have the experience of being in a line somewhere, and the clerk behind the counter is speaking to the person in front of me in Spanish and immediately switches to English for me. Sigh. I think I might have a giant E (for English) or I (for Ingles) tattooed on my forehead that is invisible to me.
The ladies who clean my house every other week are all native Spanish speakers. I will greet them with "Hola! ¿Como estas?" And they respond in Spanish, but our conversation immediately reverts to English. While cleaning my small home they chatter to each other in Spanish, and I try to eavesdrop but alas, my Spanish is not up to that. Darn.
There are also many native Americans here, and I will randomly hear them speaking to each other in their native language. Why in the world should I suggest they speak English just because they are around me?
Many years ago a co-worker and I used to chat with each other in French. Most of what we said was trivial to the point of being nonsense, and it struck us as hilarious that our co-workers tended to assume we were talking about them. Which we never were. Most of the time we were being silly and working on the libretto of our imaginary opera, "Le Petit Gros Lapin de Birmanie", "The Little Fat Bunny of Birmanie". Right. It made as much sense as you are thinking.
The essential underlying problem is that the vast majority of Americans are (as one linguist once put it) world class mono-linguists. Even those who took some foreign language in high school never really made an effort to learn that language, and promptly forgot everything they learned within 20 minutes of the final class. Too bad.
One of my small regrets in this lifetime is that I've never had the chance to live in another country and fully learn another language. Perhaps in my next lifetime.
DFW
(54,445 posts)"Birmanie" is French for Myanmar ("Burma" ).
PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,902 posts)I forgot to translate that word.
And actually, the full title of our opera was "Le Petit Gros Lapin de Pâques de Birmanie". The Little Fat Easter Bunny of Burma.
Gives you an idea of what silliness we were saying to each other.
DFW
(54,445 posts)Ein Elephant aus Oberhausen
Ließ ein Furz durch's Telephon sausen....
An elephant from Oberhausen (a town near us)
Let a fart go over the phone....
demigoddess
(6,645 posts)teacher in Mississippi!! I took Spanish and French in School. The best was in France at a school for military kids. They actually had real French teachers to teach us French. But, of course, with no way to practice it here in the US, I have lost all of it.
PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,902 posts)I had the good fortune to have an amazing French teacher in high school in the 1960s. He was born to parents who'd immigrated from Italy, and I believe he didn't learn English until he started school. During WWII he was an interpreter for the French forces in England, and his proudest moment was when M. Le General (deGaulle) mistook my monsieur for one of his own soldiers, his French was so fluent.
In the late 90s I took Spanish at my local junior college, and that teacher, a native of Puebla, Mexico, was perhaps the best teacher I ever had in any class whatsoever. However, all of the other students, recent high school graduates, had taken two or three years of Spanish in high school, and somehow had learned or retained almost nothing. It was very disturbing.
onetexan
(13,062 posts)I can picture u now - quite feisty
Cha
(297,728 posts)time I have to tell a Magat they're rude, onetexan!
It was surreal! I couldn't wait to get off the bus.. I got off 4 blocks early inadvertently ! lol
Couldn't wait to write it down and be among kindred spirits!
TlalocW
(15,392 posts)And a white woman who thought she had found a kindred soul in me - a fellow white person - when she said, "These people should learn to speak English." Ah, lady... today's your unlucky day as I'm a wise-ass with a degree in Spanish. So I replied back to her in Spanish making it clear that, "No hablo ingles," as I'm from, "Argentina." She picked up on the Ingles = English, and I guess she understood that my complexion would be somewhat common in Argentina as she got an annoyed/perplexed look on her face as how to handle a fellow white person who wasn't speaking English.
The funny thing is, the mom of the Mexican family heard me and came over and offered in English to the woman and to me in Spanish to help translate. I explained to her in Spanish what was going on, and how I was goofing on the woman, and we had a good chuckle as the woman left the aisle insulted at being laughed at.
TlalocW
BlueMTexpat
(15,373 posts)story!
yardwork
(61,712 posts)SunSeeker
(51,726 posts)True Blue American
(17,989 posts)We do not need to sit quietly by while others make A**** out of themselves! That is the true American.
People like the young boys should be praised while the ignorant who think they have the right to insult others need to be put in their place.
I have found a simple hello and smile can turn a frown into a smile.
Cha
(297,728 posts)I wouldn't speak up for Democracy! Authoritarians were not welcome!
Mahalo, True Blue American
vlyons
(10,252 posts)the 1st amendment states freedom of speech. Doesn't say anything about in what language. The only rule about speaking in English is the rule existing in her head. Thanks for defending those boys rights. Cheers
BlueMTexpat
(15,373 posts)I love that the area where I choose (and I really love that I have the ability to choose!) to reside for the most part, is in a country with FOUR national languages: French, German, Italian and Romansch.
As you can see, English is NOT one of the national languages. But many choose to speak English - and other languages - because they believe in being cosmopolitan and participating in the world. English still remains a global language, to be sure.
Too many in the US literally close their minds to the richness that other cultures and ethnic groups bring and have brought to our nation, linguistically, artistically and literally in every area. We are our own worst enemies in this respect - as in so many others.
When I take public transportation here - as I prefer to do - I hear literally a Babel of languages around me. To be sure, I live in an area where many international organizations, non-profits, and multilateral corporations are also headquartered.
I am also proud to say that in the area of MD where I have a US residence, multiculturalism and diversity, including linguistic diversity and ability, are prized.
And the area thrives because of it! The quality of life there is repeatedly ranked among the highest in the US. I wish it could be like this elsewhere in the US.
MF45 keeps trying to take us back to the Dark Ages ... and all too many are happy to follow him over the cliff.
Cha
(297,728 posts)for that reason, too.. lots of different languages and people visiting from all over the world. I hear their accents and usually ask where they're from if I have the opportunity.. always a good icebreaker.. I love talking to people from other countries visiting our Island.
Where you live sounds grand!
BlueMTexpat
(15,373 posts)and I realize that.
Hawaii is one of the great melting pot areas of the world and it's great that you get to meet so many visitors who come to see its beauty. I still re-read James Michener's book every so often ... and he would have been the first to admit that he barely scratched the surface, even beginning as he did back in pre-history.
Hawaii doesn't deserve inhabitants like the woman you described. No place does, in fact.
I long for the days when ignorance will cease being worshipped.
George II
(67,782 posts)...and two years to college. This was the 1960s. It was amazing the languages I heard during that 90-minute ride each way - Spanish, Italian, Polish, German, etc. It was mostly Spanish, and I used joke that I learned more Spanish on the subway (with all the billboards in Spanish, too) than I did in my Spanish class!
HockeyMom
(14,337 posts)in NYC, riding subways, and taking Spanish in school, by choice. Even after 40 years, you will still remember. Lived in South Florida and worked in public school. Helped in everyday life (Donde esta el banyo!!!!!) to Title 1 school. No, you don't need an English translator. The little girl is saying her feet hurt because her shoes are too small. ROFL Just 4 years of HS Spanish is enough to translate that!!!
Stupid, bigoted people. I would say to them as a 3rd Generation American, Fangool. Not Spanish either.
BlueMTexpat
(15,373 posts)NYC! It is a true melting pot.
George II
(67,782 posts)...to Flushing, Queens, which was about 95% Jewish, many of European descent, a number of them with tattoos on their arms.
Now 40 years later it's about 90% Asian (mostly Korean) Who knows what it will be in 20 years.
WePurrsevere
(24,259 posts)In the areas I've lived in upstate/northern NY it hasn't been that terribly uncommon to hear people speaking to each other quietly in Italian, Spanish, French or Pennsylvania Dutch (Amish) it's never bothered me at all.
OTOH I've had people I was near or with remark that the people speaking a foreign language quietly to each other were "rude". My comment/reply has always reflected my belief that America is a stew pot not a melting pot, it's our diversity that makes us stronger and I simply don't understand why some people think that they're entitled to understand what is an obviously quiet private conversation between others no matter what the language.
Cha
(297,728 posts)One brainwashed woman so full of hate she couldn't contain herself.. she was yelling right passed my ear.. something took over and said.. not today, Magat!
Mahalo!
Paka
(2,760 posts)I would be yelling in her face..."They are bilingual. Maybe you should try and learn something and not be so stupid. It's a real plus to speak two languages. I'm an American who is proud to speak both French and Spanish. I live in Thailand where being bilingual is a real plus."
I have little patience for stupid people.
UpInArms
(51,284 posts)treestar
(82,383 posts)Cha
(297,728 posts)so there weren't that many people on.. just us and the bus driver. There may have been somebody in that back but I didn't pay much attention.. it was kind of a blur!
Great comeback, Cha!
Cha
(297,728 posts)know where that came from! She was so insistent they speak English when they were HAWAII!
bdamomma
(63,923 posts)are you speaking "proper english" they all need a lesson on how America is and always have been an immigrant country, but I wouldn't waste my breath on these people small minds you know.
blm
(113,101 posts)there to change the outcome for them. That evil woman is NOT America.
Cha
(297,728 posts)It was a thing of beauty the way it turned out.
The Figment
(494 posts)Standing in line for a grilled cheese sandwich and as we were waiting a couple were talking quietly in Spanish in front of us when all of a sudden some dreadheaded wook started yelling the typical BS about "This is America speak English!"
My lady calmly said "Who the fuck are you to tell these folk what language to speak? They can speak any way they want to!"...in Pig Latin!
The look on this idiots face was priceless!
Cha
(297,728 posts)Whenever I'd read about someone saying that before this incident.. I used to think it was one of the most stupid arrogant things for people to do. I couldn't believe I was in my own little microcosm with the chance to let her know that(in so many words).
Good on your lady, The Figment.. Mahalo and Aloha!
yardwork
(61,712 posts)Good for you!
jayschool2013
(2,313 posts)Way to go.
If you see that woman again, just say, "Chingate, vieja."
FM123
(10,054 posts)When one of us stands up for the little guy, we all stand taller.
GetRidOfThem
(869 posts)...her response was "there are horrible people everywhere..."
You did the right thing! Congratulations for standing for those that have helped you out of the kindness of their hearts.
My beloved just added: "hope she never gets to travel anywhere, because then she would only be allowed to speak the local native language, according to her world view!"
redstatebluegirl
(12,265 posts)spooky3
(34,483 posts)MineralMan
(146,333 posts)lunasun
(21,646 posts)I would have added. Why? So you can ease drop on the conversation of 2 young boys ? Nothing better to do ?
I never get this if the people are not talking or interacting with them and the magats are just in the near area what is their thought that they can speak out to strangers ?
Is it triggering some siezure mechanism if they hear another language within a certain distance from them ? Just being ugly to others for joy or Fox Limbo marching orders?
Thank you for resisting and speaking up
IronLionZion
(45,541 posts)A MAGAT telling people in Asian majority Hawaii they can't speak Filipino(Philippines has several languages)
It would be even more MAGAtastic if they were native Hawaiians because racist people in the mainland have scolded Native Americans for speaking their tribal languages.
Hawaii is like 25% white.
cannabis_flower
(3,768 posts)A white man in the grocery store line overhears the woman in front of him talking on the phone in another language. He waits for her to get off the phone and says:
Ma'am, you're in America now, if you want to speak Mexican, you should go back to Mexico.
Without skipping a beat the woman answers:
Sir, for your information, I was speaking Navajo. If you want to speak English, you should go back to England.
In that particular case it was even more rude and presumptuous. She could have been talking to someone in another country where English isn't the majority language. If she had been speaking Spanish to someone in Mexico, why would she speak English. These people don't even stop to think how rude they are.
George II
(67,782 posts)Cha
(297,728 posts)hoping she thinks about what a fool she made of herself. Chances are practically nil for self-awareness, though if going by her attitude on the scene.
calimary
(81,511 posts)Thank you for speaking up, Cha!
bluestarone
(17,058 posts)I hate these people. Love this site because of people like YOU!!
rownesheck
(2,343 posts)only make me motivated to learn another language. I would use it more than English in the hopes of drawing them out. If they said anything to me, I would unload on them heavily.
saidsimplesimon
(7,888 posts)There are some real, ugly Americans who feel emboldened under the current administration. They will turn tail and run when challenged.
riversedge
(70,311 posts)maxsolomon
(33,400 posts)Nativist ranting on a bus in HI makes zero sense, even for a Trumpist.
Kid Berwyn
(14,971 posts)...on a pay phone in Hawaii. A woman followed her and gave her the treatment.
https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2019/08/07/service-member-speaks-out-after-shes-told-speaking-spanish-uniform-distasteful/
Thank you for standing up to the hate, Cha! Yours is the Aloha Spirit.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)Hawaiian in Hawaii, who would have thought.
MontanaMama
(23,337 posts)Thanks for being a badass and for standing up to hate. Letting that shit go tells the MAGATs their hateful behavior and words are okay and they most certainly are not.
Lonestarblue
(10,085 posts)English is often one of those languages, but can you imagine the reaction if native speakers demanded US tourists speak their language and refused to interact with them in English! Most US tourists do not bother even to learn a few words such as please and thank you in another language. The US attitude toward learning other languages is reprehensible, and when people are having private conservations, they should be able to use any language they choose. The funny thing is that many of Trumps supporters do not even speak English as well as some immigrants! Evidently they werent paying attention to their grammar lessons, so they now butcher their own languagejust as Trump does.
DinahMoeHum
(21,812 posts)Out near Intercourse*, PA, an Amish farmer is walking through his field when he sees a guy wearing a MAGAt hat drinking from his pond, scooping the water up with his hand.
The farmer says, "Trinken sie nicht das wasser, die kuhe und die schweine haben in ihm geschissen,"
which means, Don't drink the water, the cows and the pigs shit in it.
The guy shouts back, "I'm a Trump supporter, and this is America. I don't understand your gibberish. Speak English, you moron."
The farmer then says, "Use two hands, you'll get more."
(*Yes, that's a real town, between Philadelphia and Lancaster, PA, in the heart of Amish aka Pennsylvania Dutch country.)
Blue Owl
(50,514 posts)n/t
LakeArenal
(28,847 posts)highplainsdem
(49,041 posts)so much better off if there were fewer people like her and many, many more like you!
Cha
(297,728 posts)bullishly insistent.. even after they said "sorry" she wasn't happy.. she wanted to grind them into the earth.. she was sooo Offended!
Wonder where she got that from?
The great thing is there are more of us..
wryter2000
(46,082 posts)She'd have a coronary. We sound like the UN. We all get along even when we don't speak each other's language.
BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)You GO, Cha!
Cha
(297,728 posts)Hope that never happens again.. whew!
BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)Who knocked out the magat!! 😇😚❤️
ailsagirl
(22,899 posts)Turin_C3PO
(14,077 posts)sheshe2
(83,931 posts)You did great 👍
Aloha~
Cha
(297,728 posts)Just doing my job as a citizen of the world.
sheshe2
(83,931 posts)Mersky
(4,986 posts)These random public displays of racist dumbass-ery are unnerving when someone has to speak-up for decency and humanity... and you certainly did.
I had to sort out some wrongness in a Walmart checkout line whereby a frowny-faced woman dressed all perfectly matchy-matchy from head-to-toe was about to explode with some noxious comment about the kiddo having a meltdown a couple lanes over. The mom was on her phone and trying to checkout quickly. It was a classic, cutie needs a snack and nap, situation.
Whelp, at about the time steam coulda billowed out from Ms. Matchys ears, I said, little guy needs a nap with a knowing smile like, weve all been there, ya know. She snapped, how dare she be on her phone. I retorted, shes checking out and is just trying to get on thru, and maybe thats an important call? Then soured milk outed herself as a likely magat when she informed me she was an authority on child rearing unlike those people.
While her words were still painfully ringing through my brain, I shot back, maam, things have changed since you raised kids. In this day and age, we all need to show more grace and understanding as we go through the world.
Her eyes narrowed, flashing anger to which I adjusted my purse strap to point my sparkly rainbow pin right at her. Ha, thats right, Matcheroo, this librul jus dinged you with a smiting and call for grace. Ha, take that.
Now, if my granny wasnt standing three feet from me writing a check, jerkface and I would have persisted in our volleys, and it coulda turned into a seen at Walmart moment.
Instead, I won, as I watched kiddo in the cart go by calming down with one of those squishy fruit pack things. At this point, I turned to my opponent whose head was about to pop, and told her to, try to have a nice day.
Fortunately, these things do not occur with great frequency, which is good, as I find every time enraging and draining.
(Apologies for replying with my tldr, but Ive been looking for a place to relate this experience, Cha, and I could feel my own on the bus moment as I read yours. It can be uncomfortable when we have to stand up for whats right, but stand we must.)
Cha
(297,728 posts)Well done with your descriptive writing of your little scenario at Walmart explaining to the woman about kids!
Aloha & Mahalo nui loa!
Mersky
(4,986 posts)And, I sure do like to convert painful stuff over to humor. So good, am glad it landed as funny!
I debated for a good while whether I should share it, then decided theres a lot of people going around stunned by what to say back to hateful tRumpers. At some point, I might get around to relate the enchilada incident or the bizarro garage sale - theres plentiful opportunity for satire in those, but mostly are just windy and gross.
Aloha, Cha... and teehee, noʻu ka hauʻoli
Cha
(297,728 posts)share.. and yes the way you told it is humorous in hindsight but not so much while the woman was freaking out about the kid.
"Noʻu ka hauʻoli" is a lovely phrase to know.. Mahalo!
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)English. I told her, in French, to mind her own affairs, and then translated it into English for her.
Cha
(297,728 posts)who are speaking to each other not them.. to speak in English.. it's none of their business!
Only if a person is speaking to them in French should they request English and you translated it for her!
Well done, imo, guillaumeb
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)My family is mainly bilingual. If we are with others who do not speak French, we speak English only.
To me, that is courtesy.
Cha
(297,728 posts)speaks!
Those kinds of people who tell others how to speak are also aggressive bullies, imv.
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)Now that sounds just like Trump himself.
reACTIONary
(5,788 posts)... for Jebus, it ought to be good enough for us!
Lucky Luciano
(11,261 posts)...but I did have an altercation with one such nutcase that I posted about a year or two ago. She wasnt an outright racist, but a total cult member.
flamingdem
(39,330 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,543 posts)And the irony is - a whole bunch of MAGAts probably think that Hawai'i is a foreign country just like they think Puerto Rico is.
iluvtennis
(19,876 posts)Jimbo S
(2,960 posts)Stand up to these people. Beginning to do so myself when I get the chance.
Skittles
(153,200 posts)that's what I tell MAGAts
yaesu
(8,020 posts)SunSeeker
(51,726 posts)She deserves all the misery she gets, as she does not appreciate the paradise she has.
Cha
(297,728 posts)her mission seemed to be to start trouble no matter what it took.. the bitterness was just oozing out of her.
Our electricity just went back on!.. it's been off for an hour and a 1/2 after mini flash floods and high winds!
SunSeeker
(51,726 posts)Stay safe with those flash floods. Kauai has had some bad ones.
Cha
(297,728 posts)it was so Heavy! It was only 1 1/2 hours but seemed longer and I didn't open the fridge so everything is good.
Yes we have had some devastating flash floods.. I got drenched in this mini one when I was out running but everything is dry and cozy now.
Mahalo!
BootinUp
(47,197 posts)The MAGAt version of the 1ST Amendment is different than ours.
oasis
(49,410 posts)MustLoveBeagles
(11,636 posts)A shame the MAGAT's are polluting the beautiful state of Hawaii. Hopefully they're aren't that many of them.