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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(108,245 posts)
Tue Oct 8, 2019, 08:38 PM Oct 2019

DOJ: If Watergate Happened Today, We'd Block Evidence From Congress

The White House efforts to obstruct Congress’ impeachment investigation reached new and dramatic heights both on the Hill and in federal court on Tuesday. In a story that garnered widespread attention, the State Department in the morning blocked a critical witness in Congress’ impeachment inquiry from testifying about President Donald Trump’s efforts to pressure Ukraine to investigate his political rivals and potentially tie critical military aid to those investigations.

Meanwhile, in a less-noticed federal court hearing later in the day, the Department of Justice sought to block the release of the remaining redacted materials of the Mueller report and underlying evidence from Congress, arguing that if Watergate happened today, it would be able to prevent the release of grand jury evidence to Congress and the public.

To keep the evidence from Congress, the Justice Department is seeking to overturn a critical Nixon-era case that allowed the Watergate grand jury to turn over evidence to congressional investigators as part of an impeachment inquiry. The government’s “extraordinary position” made Chief Judge Beryl A. Howell of the District Court for the District of Columbia say, “Wow.”

The exasperated moment came as part of a hearing on the House Judiciary Committee’s request for Howell to issue an order commanding the DOJ to turn over the remaining redacted portions of the Mueller report along with critical underlying evidence.

The precedent in question rests on the 1974 case Haldeman v. Sirica.

In March 1974, shortly after Congress initiated its impeachment inquiry of President Richard Nixon, then-Chief Judge John Sirica, ordered materials from the Watergate grand jury turned over to Congress in what would come to be known as the “Watergate road map” for impeachment. Defendants accused of and eventually convicted for trying to cover up Watergate argued that Rule 6(E) of the federal code governing grand juries, which lays out limited exceptions that allow the disclosure of grand jury materials, prevented the release. Sirica ruled that an impeachment, as a judicial proceeding, qualified as one of those exceptions and thus the materials had to be released to Congress.

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/10/doj-blocks-watergate-impeachment-evidence-congress.html

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DOJ: If Watergate Happened Today, We'd Block Evidence From Congress (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Oct 2019 OP
Time to clean house . . . . Iliyah Oct 2019 #1
More like shoveling out the Augean stables! nt tblue37 Oct 2019 #2
...And When the SCOTUS Orders Y'all to Un-Ass the Evidence? The_Counsel Oct 2019 #3
Next question: Would you have blocked evidence during Whitewater? Caliman73 Oct 2019 #4
Still bitter about Watergate, eh? Claritie Pixie Oct 2019 #5

The_Counsel

(1,660 posts)
3. ...And When the SCOTUS Orders Y'all to Un-Ass the Evidence?
Tue Oct 8, 2019, 08:44 PM
Oct 2019

Then what?

Best bet would be to follow the law, lest there be consequences none of us want to see....

Caliman73

(11,744 posts)
4. Next question: Would you have blocked evidence during Whitewater?
Tue Oct 8, 2019, 08:45 PM
Oct 2019

Answer: That was different.

Interject: Yes, it was different. The President had a (D) after his name, you goddamned partisan hack.

Claritie Pixie

(2,199 posts)
5. Still bitter about Watergate, eh?
Tue Oct 8, 2019, 09:00 PM
Oct 2019

You'd think they'd have learned but nope, they decide to do it again and this time, not get caught!

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