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Pelosi starts an an official impeachment inquiry, but not with the intention of removing Trump from office through impeachment. The actual purpose is to drive him over the edge, and when everybody sees how F-ING BONKERS this guy is, his own Cabinet will remove him under the 25th Amendment to the Constitution. Problem solved.
Taking a look at Trump's twitter feed...which is an unfiltered view inside the mind of a MAD MAN, it appears to be WORKING!
Sheesh! THIS GUY IS AS CRAZY AS A SHITHOUSE RAT ON CRACK!
McConnell might appeal to the Cabinet directly, and explain to them that having the Cabinet remove Trump is the EASY way out for the Republican Party. The alternative is putting him on trial in the Senate, and having to get every Republican Senator to vote, and go on RECORD as being in favor of keeping a PSYCHOPATH in power. The former way only 'tarnishes' the Cabinet. The later drags the whole Republican Party down with Trump.
NCLefty
(3,678 posts)Liberty Belle
(9,535 posts)that the President has dementia and is fucking batshit crazy.
TrollBuster9090
(5,955 posts)Especially if McConnell explains to them that removal by the Cabinet is the EASY way out for the Republican Party. The alternative is to put a psychopath on trial in the Senate, and have every Republican Senator have to VOTE on whether he should stay in power or not.
pbmus
(12,422 posts)TrollBuster9090
(5,955 posts)Or draw so much attention to Putin's involvement.
Patterson
(1,531 posts)Midnightwalk
(3,131 posts)A mash up of him begging russia and ukraine and now china to interfere in our election mixed up with cuts of last weeks and future rants with scary music and sobering voice saying unamerican, traitorous, illegal
That would make a great ad. It could drum up more support for removal and at a minimum I think it would work in the presidential and senate races.
Either way the continued pressure is going to eat him alive.
Lock him up.
(6,941 posts)remove him.
Some of them are in real-deep troubles now too if they don't comply with the subpoenas... (re: Nixon's corrupt cabinet)
democratisphere
(17,235 posts)drumpf's cabinet and senior advisors are as crazy as he is.
canetoad
(17,184 posts)This is a long and comprehensive article from Lawfare. It's well worth reading.
What the 25th Amendment Is Really For
By Brian C. Kalt Wednesday, October 2, 2019, 8:00 AM
Public discussion of the 25th AmendmentSection 4 of which provides for transferring an incapacitated presidents powershas been simmering throughout the Trump administration. After every odd or unnerving public statement by Trump (most recently: crudely altering a weather map with a Sharpie, tweeting a baffling explanation of his use of the word Liddle, and raising the specter of a civil war if he is removed from office), one can find his adversaries on social media questioning his mental fitness. They fume that only cravenness or corruption can explain Vice President Pence and the Cabinets failure to invoke the 25th Amendment. If the 25th Amendment doesnt apply to President Trump, they ask, who would it apply to? Whats it even for, then?"
But Section 4 has worked just as it was intended. The failure so far to invoke Section 4 is a reflection of the 25th Amendments design, not a perversion of it.
The original Constitution provided for the vice president to take over whenever the president suffered an inability to discharge [his] powers and duties. But the Constitution incorporated no process for determining inability, and it designated no decision maker. It also left unclear whether an incapacitated president would be able to retake power if he recovered. The result was that every time a president was incapacitated, the vice president failed to step up. Among numerous such episodes, the most troubling involved Presidents Garfield (who died 79 days after being shot) and Wilson (who was felled by a stroke and for months was unable to fulfill his duties).
President Eisenhower, who suffered multiple health crises, found it intolerable that there might be no one at the helm were a nuclear war to break out. Eisenhower executed an agreement with then-Vice President Richard Nixon to transfer power if Eisenhower became incapacitated. Eisenhower also had his administration propose a more formal and permanent solution. After President Kennedys assassination, the issue gained additional urgency. Congress approved the 25th Amendment in 1965, and state ratification was completed in 1967.
https://www.lawfareblog.com/what-25th-amendment-really
dansolo
(5,376 posts)I wish people who keep suggesting this would actually read what the 25th amendment says. If the VP and cabinet actually did this, all Trump has to do is declare that he is fit and then he is automatically restored as President. At that point it would require a 2/3 vote in both houses to remove him, which is a higher threshold than impeachment. The 25th amendment is meant for a president who is incapacitated.