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Lib 4 Life

(97 posts)
3. People aren't afraid of the past (mueller report). they can be afraid of the future (trump
Sun Oct 6, 2019, 06:11 PM
Oct 2019

asking foreign govts to interfere in the next election) . That's the difference

Takket

(21,568 posts)
4. i've actually seen people right here on DU getting wrong what Abramson says above
Sun Oct 6, 2019, 06:17 PM
Oct 2019

so not so hard to believe that America didn't "get it". Why, I have no idea. maybe they don't get it because they just didn't care about it? But especially after Mueller testified I thought all ambiguity was gone. But if it takes Ukraine to get him removed, so be it, an Mueller will be waiting with his indictments afterwards. We haven't heard the last of him.

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
9. its not about caring or ignorance. that is part of a spectrum of citizens in a democracy
Sun Oct 6, 2019, 07:39 PM
Oct 2019

and there will always be those.

the difference is the RW think tanks and GOP and the last decade the kremlin have been feeding 1500 coordinated repeating talk radio stations to purposefully disinform people and create made-to-order constituencies to push or oppose anything they want, and people like dem and prog org leadership and media and abramson don't get it. it is not insignificant or just part of 'right wing media'.

rw talk radio is a monopoly messaging operation, a psyops, that dominates 40 states with 80 senators and in most areas in those states there are NO free easy alternatives for politics if you're driving, working, or doing chores.

anyone who thinks music or silence or paying for extra tech or regular fees are alternatives, or that rw radio is just serving the base, or represents market demand for hate and lies, is a fool.

in a country with a continuous stream of close elections every season for american leaders to ignore that is, as we have just seen, the biggest political mistake in history.

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Mr. Ected

(9,670 posts)
13. It didn't take off because the media has so demonized the crime of progressivism
Sun Oct 6, 2019, 08:35 PM
Oct 2019

That it was child's play to convince the MAGAts that this was simply the enemy of the people being stupid partisans.

The evidence with the Ukrainian debacle is current, confirmed and acted upon contemporaneously by the President. A similar offense to that committed at the heart of the Mueller investigation is being perpetrated in real time and this time the audience has to give it a little bit of credence. The record is also now more complete, patterns being displayed in technicolor.

 

SCVDem

(5,103 posts)
15. It's time.
Sun Oct 6, 2019, 09:01 PM
Oct 2019

Legalize end of life!

I am so tired of this shit that it's just, fuck it!

I'm 64 and I know what comes next.

Even if 38% of us are too fucking ignorant to get educated!

The Gestapo resigns with full benefits.

Meanwhile.....

 

ritapria

(1,812 posts)
17. Mueller gave an Incredibly Poor Presentation
Sun Oct 6, 2019, 10:43 PM
Oct 2019

He didn't even know what was in large parts of his report ….. That it made very difficult for the Dems to push for an Impeachment Inquiry based on it's contents ...Trump felt in the clear ...One day after the Mueller's testimony, Trump made the now infamous call to the President of Ukraine ……. Even if re-elected, (God forbid) his second term won't last very long ….He can't t control his criminal impulses

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