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Trumps Rural Support In Wisconsin Has Completely Collapsed
Trump has lost 25 points of support with rural voters as Joe Biden leads him in the Badger State by nine percent, 48%-39% in a new Fox News poll of the state.
https://www.politicususa.com/2019/10/06/trump-rural-voters-wisconsin.html/amp
Via Fox News:
"SNIP.....
Trump won rural voters by 27 points in 2016. They now back him over Biden by only 2 points.
By a 19-point margin, Wisconsin voters think tariffs hurt rather than help the economy, and more oppose building a wall along the southern border by 10 points.
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Voters who say tariffs hurt the economy prefer Biden by a 61-point margin. Those who think tariffs help support Trump by 65.
Trump beat Hillary Clinton in Wisconsin by less than one percentage point, making him the first Republican to win the state since 1984. Ninety-two percent of Clinton voters back Biden, while 83 percent of Trump voters stick with him.
....SNIP"
kimbutgar
(21,153 posts)The Democrats want to turn the USA into Venezuela. They are going to throw the kitchen sink and every slimy thing at the Democrats. And dont forget Russia wants the USA to be destabilized the trolls are going to be hanging from every computer.
Thats why I think its important to totally destroy MF45 now and make him resign when its becomes unbearable for him.
dewsgirl
(14,961 posts)SWBTATTReg
(22,129 posts)into ...
Looks like a typo here...
drray23
(7,633 posts)That Democrats want to turn the us into a socialist country like Venezuela .
certainot
(9,090 posts)resonate again and keep elections close enough to steal.
that general messaging will go along with a massive hype of the ebola threat coming across the southern border in october with putin's help so if trump is not out he will declare emergency and 'postpone' the election if it looks bad for him.
democrats have to go on offense and destroy the talk radio monopoly
SWBTATTReg
(22,129 posts)supposed to do this? Just arbitrarily decide that someone is broadcasting 'crap' and take their broadcasting license away? There are over 15,000 stations licensed in the US so far...
certainot
(9,090 posts)it wouldn't take much activism for the ad industry to get the message it has to start asking radio ad clients if they REALLY want to support the global warming denial, racism, hate, and ignorance. advertisers will head for the hills and the monopoly will fall apart. a few protests at universities and some boycotting and some press releases alerting the ad industry to this vulnerability might do it - they want those ears and don't want another stoprush - with AI they will be looking at stoprush x100.
RW has perpetuated the myth that the monopoly is a reflection of the market demand for hate and lies ---advertisers will head for the hills and many stations will have to change programming to stay alive
and it wouldn't hurt for students and communities to start protesting anything trump at the 88+ universities that broadcast sports on 260 limbaugh stations. those schools need to be asked what they would do if the KKK bought those stations, because basically they did 20 or 30 years ago
talk radio is the only unique advantage they have and at $1000/hr 1200 stations x 15 hrs/day is worth about $5BIL/year FREE to them - and the kremlin trolls piggybacking it. they know how important it is and democratic and media leadership clearly think it's irrelevant - they need to get the message and they need to start asking questions in their investigations that raise the talk radio issue to democrats.
it should not be considered part of the free speech spectrum as long as it is a well protected and coordinated monopoly. destroying the talk radio propaganda operation will help on every level, every issue, every election. and it will encourage republicans to impeach trump if they know limbaugh and sons are under attack.
SWBTATTReg
(22,129 posts)smacks of censorship because of their rabid content. If you don't listen to these stations (you must, I wonder since this is always your topic) then these radio stations have zero in doing anything to my vote, or my friends for that matter. Seems like to me that rush l. has lost a lot of his effectiveness because he is a jerk and idiot, and rump isn't doing so well either despite having 1500 radio stations in his so called corner.
certainot
(9,090 posts)operation has been blasting the country with for 30 years. they put those blowhards on every corner and stump in the country and liberals have been walking by with their fingers in their ears expecting things to get better if they just vote and send in some money once in a while. and activists and protestors doing a lot of good work are getting undercut by a few hundred coordinated liars on public airwaves.
censorship? you're mischaracterizing my call for free speech reaction to that propaganda operation
trump nor gw bush would never have gotten anywhere near the WH without rw radio and limbaugh as its leader and enforcer, probably fed by putin since 2008 at least, is the only advantage trump and the republicans have.
it's been really fucking stupid of liberals and democrats to keep ignoring it - especially leadership - the biggest political mistake in history. democrats and media don't even poll for it
certainot
(9,090 posts)you think it's because democrats haven't been trying? so they're not worth voting for?
that's what those 30 years of unchallenged repetition have been selling
kimbutgar
(21,153 posts) bs blah talking point.
SWBTATTReg
(22,129 posts)Mariana
(14,857 posts)to save the United States from the evil and Satanic Democrats, and that if they oppose Trump, they're going against God. Support for Trump has become a tenet of the faith in many Christian churches.
Guy Whitey Corngood
(26,501 posts)FakeNoose
(32,639 posts)All the more reason for Democrats to speak up.
Good job Wisconsin Democrats!
book_worm
(15,951 posts)Bernie ahead of Trump by 5 and Warren ahead by 4. Trump doesn't get more than 41% against Biden, Sanders or Warren.
hlthe2b
(102,279 posts)Salviati
(6,008 posts)Hopefully they're waking up from their fever dream of republican ideology, I mean you can only look how differently the state across the St. Croix river is doing for so long before you start asking if the strategy you've been following is really working as well as advertised. They've gotten a good start in a new governor, now it's time to flush the rest of the turds down the drain.
Stuart G
(38,427 posts)This is very important...loosing Wisconsin could hurt Trump in a big way..
a kennedy
(29,663 posts)and they BETTER COME TO THEIR SENSES this go around.
BlueWI
(1,736 posts)The real challenge is getting white voters to stop voting for Republicans, nationally and in each state.
And it's far too early to declare victory in Wisconsin. With a gerrymandered map and racism, xenophobia, and sexism increasingly played to by the Republican majority, the degree of difficulty for sustained Democratic wins is quite high.
The top of the ticket matters too with the level of coattails in a state like this one. A top-notch campaign for the presidency with vision, energy, and nimbleness makes the job of electing Democrats statewide a lot easier. We need to learn all the possible lessons from 2016 and avoid assumptions and strategy that are not based on current conditions.
If you have concerns about WI in 2020, donating to the state Democratic party is a good move. There's a new director of the state party that is a great coalition builder and strategist, IMO.
Drunken Irishman
(34,857 posts)They aren't likely to win the election without it. They need to really flip back Wisconsin, Pennsylvania and Michigan. If Trump wins just one of those three, he's likely going to be reelected.
Tiggeroshii
(11,088 posts)Just other peoples faces :/
a kennedy
(29,663 posts)riversedge
(70,227 posts)Thekaspervote
(32,769 posts)Maru Kitteh
(28,340 posts)they know he will beat Trump like a DRUM.
Delph
(27 posts)lindysalsagal
(20,687 posts)They always called them level-headed and sensible.
Now with texas bordering on blue, let's hope this means something for the swing states, as well.
beachbumbob
(9,263 posts)Pennsylvania, Michigan as well. And be in trouble in Iowa, Kansas.
yaesu
(8,020 posts)True Blue American
(17,984 posts)MTP today. Meeting with Russians.
https://mobile.twitter.com/fred_guttenberg/status/1180850339311960076?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet
dalton99a
(81,510 posts)Poiuyt
(18,124 posts)I still see a lot of MAGA hats here
Gothmog
(145,264 posts)0rganism
(23,955 posts)i think Putin knew a long time ago how thoroughly Trump would fail at the presidency, yet how eager he would be to assume the office for which he is most unsuited.
now the USA is in complete disgrace, alienated from our allies and paralyzed by internal intransigence. Putin can kick back and let the USA tear itself apart from within while trying to rid itself of a Trump taint heartily embraced by ~30% of our population.
even if voters elect a Democrat in 2020, itself hardly a "sure thing", structural cleanup within a generation will be nearly impossible, and opposed at every step by the most fanatical remnants of the GOP Trump cult who will blame "deep state traitors" for Trump's loss.
who knows how long ago his work to destroy the USA began, but Putin could call himself finished now, wipe his hands and walk away, and he'd likely be correct in his assessment.
dchill
(38,497 posts)NoMoreRepugs
(9,427 posts)what new chicanery will be revealed down the road. His support will continue to erode.