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TomCADem

(17,387 posts)
Sun Oct 6, 2019, 03:58 PM Oct 2019

Understanding Trump's Behavior - Committing Crimes as a Demonstration and Insurance of Loyalty

What has struck me about Trump is how consistent he is in insisting that his appointees engage in criminal acts. Comey was hit up early on with respect to Michael Flynn. Jeff Sessions was berated for recusing himself and refusing to squelch the Russia investigation.

Yet, these are exceptions rather than rule. Instead, more often than not, Trump's appointees willing commit the crimes, thus demonstrating loyalty to Trump over any sense of duty to the laws or the Nation. By committing the crime, they gain acceptance into Trump's inner circle. In addition, having committed the crime, they cannot act against Trump without implicating themselves.

It reminds me of growing up and hearing about the initiation rites of local gangs. I always wondered why did a gang require initiates to commit crimes in order to join. It just seemed like a lot of bravado. Instead, it may just be a means of demonstrating and ensuring loyalty among the members.

https://www.godanriver.com/news/local/for-danville-gangs-crimes-are-part-of-initiation-to-show/article_98100ffc-8c70-11e8-bc8e-1bc80f41b829.html

These crimes, Virginia Gang Investigators Association President Randy Crank explained, are a show of loyalty to the gang, and can range from larceny to violence.

“Gang initiations include committing crimes to show their commitment to the gang, to show they have ‘heart,’” Crank wrote in an email. “They do it for monetary gain, to build reputation, move up in rank.”

The impetus for joining a gang, Whitley said, is often to fill a personal vacuum and gain respect and status.

“That lifestyle fills a void for young people,” Whitley said. “It’s not like they are getting into a gang for the criminal side. They do it for acceptance.”
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Understanding Trump's Behavior - Committing Crimes as a Demonstration and Insurance of Loyalty (Original Post) TomCADem Oct 2019 OP
NewYorkers knew this about Trump for decades. blm Oct 2019 #1
Nixon's boys Turbineguy Oct 2019 #2
Apparently that's how you become a "made man" in the Trump Administration. The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2019 #3
"I've got you on tape helping me plan this crime: if I go down, so do you!" struggle4progress Oct 2019 #4
Yep. "You're now a criminal just like me!" dalton99a Oct 2019 #9
Its Like Making a Deal with the Devil and Selling Your Soul TomCADem Oct 2019 #11
MOB MOB MOB MOB MOB Grasswire2 Oct 2019 #5
Yep. Yo get tainted then yo owe them, at the end you get dragged down underpants Oct 2019 #6
Enough already. I understood tRUMP before he was installed in high political office through abqtommy Oct 2019 #7
McConnell vows to stop impeachment in fundraising video TomCADem Oct 2019 #8
Let's get rid of Moscow Mitch while we're at it. abqtommy Oct 2019 #10

blm

(113,063 posts)
1. NewYorkers knew this about Trump for decades.
Sun Oct 6, 2019, 04:02 PM
Oct 2019

He acts like a mob boss because he always wanted to be a mob boss.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,719 posts)
3. Apparently that's how you become a "made man" in the Trump Administration.
Sun Oct 6, 2019, 04:04 PM
Oct 2019

You don't have to actually whack anybody, but you have to do something that could get you indicted (and which consigliere Bill Barr might be able to prevent). And the principle of omertà seems to be operative as well.

TomCADem

(17,387 posts)
11. Its Like Making a Deal with the Devil and Selling Your Soul
Mon Oct 7, 2019, 12:06 AM
Oct 2019

I am sure it starts off as a slippery slope where Trump first starts by asking for a favor by bending the rules and overlooking a criminal violation or investigating a political opponent. I am sure the hope is that Trump won't push it further such as when James Comey did not say squat about Trump's request that he drop the investigation of Michael Flynn until later.

Of course, Trump just keeps on pushing the envelope until each person in his administration is a complete accomplice complete with Trump leaking their respective roles as a way to remind them that if Trump goes down, they all go down. Thus, Trump's leaks of Michael Pence's role was designed to send the message to Congressional Republicans that there is no Plan B. The Republican Party at this point in time is nothing more than the cult of Trump.

underpants

(182,823 posts)
6. Yep. Yo get tainted then yo owe them, at the end you get dragged down
Sun Oct 6, 2019, 04:46 PM
Oct 2019

and the boss (Trump has a boss) either goes down .....or not. Either way you are screwed.

abqtommy

(14,118 posts)
7. Enough already. I understood tRUMP before he was installed in high political office through
Sun Oct 6, 2019, 06:10 PM
Oct 2019

corruption and I understand him at the present time. Now I want to get rid of him and would like to see our energy directed to that!

TomCADem

(17,387 posts)
8. McConnell vows to stop impeachment in fundraising video
Sun Oct 6, 2019, 07:24 PM
Oct 2019

Perhaps it is too late, because every top Republican is in too deep. Trump's game plan is not merely to smear Joe Biden, but to indict and arrest him or any Democratic nominee. What is to stop them? Trump takes out the Democratic nominee and McConnell works with Senate Republicans to stop any impeachment efforts.

https://www.sfgate.com/news/us/article/McConnell-vows-to-stop-impeachment-in-fundraising-14495505.php

LOUISVILLE, Ky. (AP) — Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell vows to stop any Democratic push for impeachment in a social media campaign ad that he's using as a platform to raise campaign funds off the inquiry of President Donald Trump.

In the brief Facebook video, McConnell makes it clear that the Republican-controlled Senate with him in charge will be a firewall against efforts to remove Trump from office.

"All of you know your Constitution," McConnell says in the video. "The way that impeachment stops is with a Senate majority with me as majority leader."

The Senate leader, a steadfast Trump defender, avoided the impeachment issue during public appearances in his home state of Kentucky this past week.

abqtommy

(14,118 posts)
10. Let's get rid of Moscow Mitch while we're at it.
Sun Oct 6, 2019, 09:21 PM
Oct 2019

There are other ways to accomplish this besides impeachment. Public opinion comes to mind.
No way would Muscovy Mitch survive an investigation, but we need to make the effort. Hand wringing and pearl clutching ain't gonna get it.

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