Coming back from the supermarket, I heard on the car radio

[MineralMan]

some Republican spokeswoman talking about Trump's visit to Minneapolis next Thursday. She was talking about the potential for left-wing violence against attendees of his rally. "The Left," she said, "is the only group advocating violence out there. Republicans never do that."

Apparently she missed all those times Donald Trump encouraged violence from his audience during the 2016 campaign and other times. Apparently, she's unaware of the right-wing violence that is now a commonplace out there. Sadly, the host on the radio program just let her go on and on about it and how people are afraid of being attacked by mobs at the Trump rally.

What a crock! Republicans lie. They just do.

[mahina]

1. Call the station please MM

If you give me the number and the time of day and I’ll call too. Grrrr.

[MineralMan]

3. There's no point. WCCO has several talk show hosts.

Mostly they don't put up with that nonsense. The one on today didn't try to counter the lies. I didn't have time to call in before the show changed. Oh, well...

[Botany]

2. My basic cable is loaded with all kinds of hate talk/GOP/Christo-Fascist channels

Fox, Fox Business, News Max, Some other cable supplied "fox type" news show, and so on but
I awoke the other night after watching some sports and somehow one of those channels was on
and some blond was answering a caller w/"of course now there is where we have lots of double
voting" (very rough quote) I have done voter protection work for years and double voting just
doesn't happen but it is like Hillary's emails or Benghazi that it has been repeated enough that
some people have come to believe it as true.

They have to lie because the truth would kill 'em.

[Ilsa]

4. I'm speculating, but could this weekend show have been a

rerun from earlier in the week? Sometimes the political stations take most of the weekend off.

[MineralMan]

5. No. It was a Sunday host.

WCCO is a lot of talk. It's a News/Talk/Sports station with an affiliation with CBS. It doesn't lean too far right, but some of the hosts tend to have a rightward point of view. This particular guest was especially biased, and the host apparently didn't feel like arguing on this Sunday afternoon. I was a little surprised that the host let it go on without challenge. Usually, she doesn't do that. Again, oh, well...

[lunatica]

6. I truly think that other than unpredictable wackos

no one who isn’t predisposed to violence will suddenly take up arms. We know liberals won’t.

It’s really been the case for over two years that the arrow hasn’t budged on the percentages of pro and anti Trump people. Any movement, if that, has been in the direction of Trump losing support. Probably the ex Obama voters, women and brown people.

Until I see that vaunted civil war I’m refusing to worry about it. If Trump hasn’t terrified his voters enough to take up arms against their fellow Americans, no radio station host will.

[barbtries]

7. they're amping up the propaganda

straight up lies like that are truly dangerous. no one seems to check them on this.

[FakeNoose]

8. Remember Nixon's re-election? He used to sneak fake "protesters" into his rallies

... just so he could point out the ungrateful kids who refused to fight for their country, etc. Nixon convinced a lot of people that it would be unpatriotic to NOT VOTE for Nixon's 2nd term. It was total crap, but a lot of the "silent majority" bought it.

[NellieStarbuck]

9. Well, Republicans have shown a willingness . . .

. . . to lap up whatever lies Trump spews at them. Lying to them is very, very effective. Why wouldn't all their representatives use this method?

[slumcamper]

10. Until WE get specific and COMMAND the dialogue, RW rhetoric wins.

To get us going, what are some examples of "all those times Donald Trump encouraged violence from his audience during the 2016 campaign and other times"?

This list could get long...anyone care to begin?

[Initech]

11. Um... bullshit.

The Republicans like the Proud Boys are the ones who are actively looking to start fights. And you can't bully people like that and expect us not to fight back. It doesn't work that way.

[ancianita]

12. Have you heard of Minneapolis's antifa group, The Baldies? They plan to protest Trump's visit.

I first read about them in Mark Bray's Antifa -- The Antifascist Handbook, and was very impressed with their philosophy and activities.

They seem to articulate the antifascist models of Europe after WWII.

Obviously the Republicans want to paint themselves as peace loving humbles in advance of this rally, but they're not fooling anyone. Neither is Nazi Trump. Because white knights folks will be there.

Anyway, SPLC presents their history. https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/intelligence-report/2013/roots-ara

Thanks for posting about this. To me, you seem fortunate to live in an historic antifa place.

[TheBlackAdder]

13. Sounds to me like she's telegraphing some type of RW scheme.

[The Liberal Lion]

14. The only way these politicians can stay in power is if they keep

certain segment of the population in fear. These right's current message is not one of hope and promise or even a grand vision of a more unified future. Everyone wants peace, everyone wants security, everyone wants to get along with their fellow man, everyone wants a healthy and natural environment, only these things what mankind really wants is in direct conflict with the goals the powerful pursue for their own personal benefit. The thing is, this power is only imaginary, and we the people are the ones who empower this false reality. We can't have peace if we are battling over resources instead of sharing them in a responsible way. We can't have security so long as private industry and aristocracies control the access and distribution of vital resources for their own personal gain. We can't have peace and good fellowship among individuals so long as we are subjected to the false scarcity imposed upon us by our imaginary and debt backed currency systems. We can't have a healthy environment so long as fossil fuels fuel our way of lives. All of these factors are linked by greed and fear. However, we can't point the fingers at the other without realizing that three fingers point right back at us.. So, if we really want to change the world, indeed it starts not with politics, it starts with ourselves. We on the left have a unique opportunity to make this change. Yes, many of us are gripped by fear, but much of that fear we have is based on not realizing a future many of us desire. We can have the change we desire, YES WE CAN. First we must be brave, first we must have courage. When we find this courage, now we take it upon ourselves to be brave enough to make the changes we truly desire in the entirety of our planet. This may sound naïve, and perhaps it is, but the only way we will really change this system is to make it obsolete. We can not halfstep at it, as half assed is no change at all. As for me, change begins with me.

[58Sunliner]

15. Sounds like someone intentionally using disinformation tactics.

[paleotn]

16. Republicans lie. It's in their dna.

[Sogo]

17. Apparently, she never read

....MF45's tweet about the Civil War like fracture that will befall the country if he's impeached.

[Lib 4 Life]

18. Republicans dehumanizing democrats is all I've even known. Nothing new here.

[sarge43]

19. Also planting the excuse for a low turn out.

See, see people didn't show up because of "The Left"

[SleeplessinSoCal]

20. it's a difference of how we are wired.

When Trump came to Costa Mesa's Pacific Amphitheater in 16, he'd been inviting violence against Mexicans for over a year. There were protests at the rally and I recall Cole Bartiromo making news in many columns about the violence. The morning of we headed for the mountains since it was right at our corner and watched tv news of the over turned cop cars there from 6,750 ft.

My "conservative" half sister and I got into a heated text exchange. She saw no excuse for the violence and i made the argument for it being the result of trump inciting people at his rallies. We will never agree. Though we are probably both right.

(To top it off he lied again about the size of the crowd. He tweeted 31,000. Truth: "After further construction and improvements in 2015, the seating was reduced to 8,000." There were hundreds protesting, not 23,000.)

[Peacetrain]

21. Yep.. I wonder at what time, in any of our rallies for our candidates ,did one of

the Democrats offer to pay someones legal fees if they punched a demonstrator out.. yeah... sounds like that woman has her head fairly far up her .. well you know what I mean

[JHB]

22. Neiwert: Militiamen and ... neo-Nazi terrorists jump ... when Trump tweets about 'civil war'

Militiamen and nascent neo-Nazi terrorists jump to attention when Trump tweets about 'civil war'
David Neiwert
Daily Kos Staff
Friday October 04, 2019 · 11:00 AM EDT

To the surprise of no one, the people most excited about Donald Trump’s tweet warning that “civil war” would erupt if Democrats were to remove him from office via impeachment have turned out to be some of the very same far-right extremists who have been loudly fantasizing about a violent civil war.

Alex Jones’ Infowars was all over it immediately, of course, declaring that “America’s Civil War Is About to Get Hot,” while also warning: “If Trump falls, you and your family are next.” The Gateway Pundit dismissed Rep. Adam Kinzinger’s statement of concern about the tweet by calling him a “Never-Trump squish.”

Meanwhile, at the Twitter account of the far-right “Patriot” group Oath Keepers, founder Stewart Rhodes posted a long thread in support of Trump’s tweet: “We ARE on the verge of a HOT civil war. Like in 1859. That’s where we are.”

The most disturbing and worrisome response, however, came from the neo-Nazi terror group Atomwaffen SS, which published a video essentially urging members to begin taking violent action on behalf of their white-supremacist cause, as Mack Lamoreux and Ben Makuch reported at Vice. It was posted online less than 12 hours after Trump published his tweet.

Full article at https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2019/10/4/1889899/-Militiamen-and-nascent-neo-Nazi-terrorists-jump-to-attention-when-Trump-tweets-about-civil-war

[Doitnow]

23. Can't someone run a melange of shots of rump rallies where he is inciting violence? There must be

dozens of incidents to choose from.

[live love laugh]

24. Their lies and the liars are powerful and widespread.

These clowns 🤡 believe what they’re hearing from the Republican owned media.