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skip fox

(19,359 posts)
Sun Oct 6, 2019, 11:29 AM Oct 2019

It all becomes clear. Trump knows what's going to come out so he investigages Mueller.

It's a one-to-one correspondence!

DU poster Botony brought this home to me.

Has this relationship been clear to people? Will clarifying it help counter its effectiveness?

Trump wants negative information on the Mueller report so he can be waving pages of "evidence" about the Deep State Coup as it dribbles out hoping a. to distract, b. to make people hate the deep state more than him, and/or c. to attack his attackers as he has all of his life

It's the frenetic quality and the breath of the investigation that convince me that majormotivatio is, basically, fear.

Here's Botony's post which shows the energy and extent of Trump's flailing:

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And that is why he is sending people like Barr, Pompeo, Giuliani, and others all over the world ...

.... to find "dirt" on the investigations that led to the Mueller investigation because they can't argue the facts of the case so they
have to argue about the processes from which those facts arose. But at the end of the day multiple intelligence agencies all over
the world have one overarching conclusion and that is Russia fucked with our elections and both the Trump campaign and
many republicans were well aware of what was going on @ the time.
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It all becomes clear. Trump knows what's going to come out so he investigages Mueller. (Original Post) skip fox Oct 2019 OP
It is all connected. H2O Man Oct 2019 #1
Yes. blm Oct 2019 #4
Exactly! H2O Man Oct 2019 #5
Always follow the money..eom at140 Oct 2019 #2
I just posted about the full Mueller Report coming out blm Oct 2019 #3
Trump and Barr will select Wellstone ruled Oct 2019 #6
Yeah. I think the Biden stuff was being laid out for general blm Oct 2019 #7
Back then he may also have been worriied about the Mueller Report, skip fox Oct 2019 #9
Right now it appears Biden Wellstone ruled Oct 2019 #11
Media reports about a Crowdstrike/Mueller investigation or a Ukraine-Biden investigation... Garrett78 Oct 2019 #8
Your link is missing. hedda_foil Oct 2019 #10
Here's the link: skip fox Oct 2019 #14
Thanks, Skip hedda_foil Oct 2019 #20
I agree that Botany is brilliant and the only thing better than his insights is his modesty. Botany Oct 2019 #12
Yep malaise Oct 2019 #19
This all goes back to the canceled Exxon deal and sanctions. nature-lover Oct 2019 #13
You get a cookie pecosbob Oct 2019 #17
Don't forget Steele. It's been months ago, but remember Laura PourMeADrink Oct 2019 #15
Yes..he still wants to discredit the Mueller report Laura PourMeADrink Oct 2019 #16
Frightened for his very life Mopar151 Oct 2019 #18

H2O Man

(73,556 posts)
1. It is all connected.
Sun Oct 6, 2019, 11:35 AM
Oct 2019

I'm only semi-awake, but hope this makes sense .....think of the Russian spy the CIA extracted from Moscow a while back. His reports on Putin's operation was how the Trump-Russian counter-intelligence report began. But it is all highly classified, and can't be made public.

Next, think back to when the documents on Manafort being paid by the crooked "leader" of Ukraine came out. Other records from this went to US intelligence, and are also part of the counter-intelligence investigation of Trump and friends. Again, highly classified. And closely connected.

This is the foundation that Rudy and his crew were trying to dissemble ......

More later.

blm

(113,063 posts)
4. Yes.
Sun Oct 6, 2019, 12:02 PM
Oct 2019

While the press and partisan warriors are distracted with the smaller, peripheral issue of Biden. Even I initially saw it as just a self-serving attack on Biden. Now clearly seeing that it’s a war against the unredacted Mueller Report’s findings on Russia and Trumpworld and the outstanding crimes that were still being investigated.

H2O Man

(73,556 posts)
5. Exactly!
Sun Oct 6, 2019, 12:13 PM
Oct 2019

Everything is connected. People need to consider, for example, why Rudy is working with Manafort and his people. It's not coincidence.

blm

(113,063 posts)
3. I just posted about the full Mueller Report coming out
Sun Oct 6, 2019, 11:58 AM
Oct 2019

is more likely, especially because of a formal impeachment process. And that Trump and Barr were trying to get ahead of it.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
6. Trump and Barr will select
Sun Oct 6, 2019, 12:58 PM
Oct 2019

a stooge to leak the Mueller Report on a so called quite weekend. Sure looking like the ground work is being laid. The Ukraine thing got away on them and they know they are going to be held accountable and it is not going to be pretty.

blm

(113,063 posts)
7. Yeah. I think the Biden stuff was being laid out for general
Sun Oct 6, 2019, 01:02 PM
Oct 2019

Election because polls back then were saying to expect Biden to be the Dem nominee, but, whistleblower rushed it into the open.

skip fox

(19,359 posts)
9. Back then he may also have been worriied about the Mueller Report,
Sun Oct 6, 2019, 01:05 PM
Oct 2019

thinking it may create a bigger stink than it did.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
11. Right now it appears Biden
Sun Oct 6, 2019, 01:09 PM
Oct 2019

could be the Nominee. February and Caucus Time just might change things in a very different direction.

With the up coming public hearings around Trump/Pence/Barr Impeachments and all the Chaff from those,thinking the Public might change directions and want a Clean Slate.

Mean time,the Rethugs are all in with False Narratives and False equivalencies or anything Biden. We are just seeing Hillary part two.

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
8. Media reports about a Crowdstrike/Mueller investigation or a Ukraine-Biden investigation...
Sun Oct 6, 2019, 01:04 PM
Oct 2019

...is all Trump and his minions want. They know it's all bullshit, but that isn't the point. It's all about muddying the water and influencing the narrative.

Between that and voter suppression and gerrymandering, they hope to maintain power in 2020. I wouldn't want to bet money against them being successful, but I'm clinging to hope.

Botany

(70,508 posts)
12. I agree that Botany is brilliant and the only thing better than his insights is his modesty.
Sun Oct 6, 2019, 01:19 PM
Oct 2019

“If the facts are against you, argue the law. If the law is against you, argue the facts. If the law and the facts are against you, pound the table and yell like hell”


― Carl Sandburg

******
Everybody should remember what Trump said when he was told that Mueller was going to investigate Trump & Russia,
"I'm fucked. This is the end of my Presidency."

pecosbob

(7,541 posts)
17. You get a cookie
Sun Oct 6, 2019, 02:33 PM
Oct 2019

Exxon was to get access to the Russian Arctic and Iran, al Saud was to get a new nuclear power sector and a war with his arch-rivals, and Putin was to get the Magnitsky sanctions lifted so he could build his gas pipeline to southern Europe and generally continue doing what gangster heads of state do. Sanctions remain in place if weakened by Trump, et al. so Putin never signed off on the war with Iran. Now he's doubling down on the Donbas as plan B. Putin does not like having anyone else in control of the valves of his money pipeline to Europe.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
15. Don't forget Steele. It's been months ago, but remember
Sun Oct 6, 2019, 02:20 PM
Oct 2019

They wanted to talk to him. Our doj. And he said he would if Britain gave him permission. Something like that. But it was a huge red flag. Like they were going to play with the classifications or something like that. Like pick and choose what people can see and what they can't see of what someone says?

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
16. Yes..he still wants to discredit the Mueller report
Sun Oct 6, 2019, 02:32 PM
Oct 2019

It's origins.


Why? Couple ideas .
1. To sully up Hillary somehow. Because his ego HATES that she got more votes.

2. He thinks or thought we'd impeach based on Russian conspiracy and we didn't. Building defense.

3. He's trying to find some other country to blame, as a gift for Putin

Mopar151

(9,983 posts)
18. Frightened for his very life
Sun Oct 6, 2019, 07:05 PM
Oct 2019

If he doesn't give Putin a full effort, it's poison time. I believe this is some of the motivation in his self-destruction cycle - he's tried to bust out before, but got a scolding from Vladdy!

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