What IS IT with drumpf, anyway?

[Takket]

Something that has bothered me this entire time about him..................

He is stupid.
He's a fraud.
He's unlikable.
He isn't charismatic.

But he's racist.

I understand the appeal to the MAGAt. Low information voters who accept drumpf because he is racist and hate filled.

But what is with all these people in Washington who are literally putting their FREEDOM at stake sticking their neck out for him. WHY? I look at someone like Bill Barr......... who is aging, was in private practice making money in the millions. He should be looking for a private island to retire on. Instead he came back to the government.... to save drumpf's ass?????? WHY? There is a VERY REAL chance for Barr that he might go to prison for some of the things he has done. He is risking his very freedom for drumpf? Even if you like his policies why would you risk that? I don't get it!

And people like Mulveny and those in the WH that helped cover up for the Ukraine related crimes........ HUH??? WHAT are you doing?????????? Is drumpf worth risking going to PRISON for? Is any job????????

If any of you worked for a democrat in the white house and you saw that person breaking the law, would you break the law as well to help cover for them? I WOULD NOT.

What are these people getting out of this that makes the risk worth it? And don't tell me that cheap ass fraud is bribing these people with millions of dollars, because you KNOW he is not. Maybe Russia is??? I just boggles my mind............

[centrarchus]

1. Amen. I can't fathom it either.

[Cousin Dupree]

2. I think this says more about the character of these people than it does about Donny Boy.

[UniteFightBack]

5. This. nt

[Generic Brad]

3. Easy. Blackmail

Would you be surprised to learn that the majority of them are sexual deviants hiding a double life that would repulse even their voters? Would you be surprised to discover that the majority of them were among the worst financial criminals imaginable? Would you be taken aback to learn that some of them committed heinous crimes somewhere in their past that have gone undetected?

To someone like that, Trump would have unwavering loyalty. The alternative to not supporting him would be certain exposure, permanent disgrace and possibly prison.

[TruckFump]

4. Arrogance and Greed

They thought they could get away with the money grubbing that they did by using MF45 as their useful idiot.

IMO, it has now caught up with them.

[UCmeNdc]

6. What is it about Trump that draws educated people into his crazy plans?

They fall all over themselves trying to kiss Trump's butt.

[RobinA]

18. He's Rich

and he’s POTUS. Plus, I think some of these guys think they can reign him in and get along. They don’t understand that he will not change.

[Maeve]

7. He's crafty, he's rich, he appears powerful

And many are willing to hitch a ride up on his back.

Did you ever hear the story of how the wren became the king of the birds?

The birds argued over who should rule and finally the raptors insisted it should be the one who could fly the highest. And so up they soared. All the others reached their peak and dropped out, but the eagle out-flew them all. And when he had reached his absolute limit, he turned and squawked out "See your king!" But the tiny wren had hidden himself on the eagle's back and flew just above the eagle and said "Yes, look up at your king!"

The story is about 3,000 years old and the name for the wren in several languages translates to "king of birds". And it is probably why the wren was traditionally killed on St Stephen's Day in Ireland (and other places); it is a sacrifice at the winter solstice.

[Takket]

8. yes i guess the allure of power makes people makes people "get on the eagles back"

when i think of drumpf I think more of the scorpion an the fox......... a tale that was told on star trek: voyager

what amazes me is how many times drumpf has played the "scorpion" for every "fox" to see, and yet there are still more foxes offering him a ride

[Maeve]

9. Oh, yes...we know what his nature is!

But there is something in Americans that loves a con man...

[RobinA]

19. I Think It's

more that everybody thinks he won’t be conned like those other rubes.

[Drahthaardogs]

10. They. All. Took. The. Dirty. Russian. Money.

If Trump goes, the truth comes out.

[Unbelievable]

11. When I asked a question like this

To my right wing friend he says something like this

"Its only confusing to you because you have put this story together like a patchwork quilt. Its EITHER some weird, how does he get away with it, how do these people like him, how are we not winning, how does he keep slithering away weird thing...

Then he says OOOORRRRR
(he really gloats here)

"He actually didn't do anything wrong. "

He says if we take to politics out of it and just use occams razor it proves this. It's so simple to him.

I've been asking what this kool aid has in in to cause these people to follow him. I think we check that. This is scarier than any lead up to any movie ending I've seen in awhile. 2 realities.

[Kitchari]

12. It's not about the orange one, it's about power

It's about power, and keeping their party in power permanently. They have been crafting this strategy since Nixon's downfall.

[Takket]

13. well this op/ed from NYT is ironic since I started this thread today LOL

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/05/opinion/sunday/pompeo-trump.html?smid=tw-nytopinion&smtyp=cur

There’s no way that Mike Pompeo actually venerates Donald Trump. I doubt he even likes the president much.

Pompeo graduated first in his class at West Point decades ago, a feat that suggests enormous reserves of discipline, a profound respect for tradition and a talent for self-effacement when the circumstances warrant it. Trump possesses none of those qualities.

Pompeo is an evangelical Christian, steeped in the very dictums that Trump has spent a lifetime mocking with both his words and his deeds. And Pompeo has long believed in the importance of American military intervention abroad, the kind of activist role that Trump railed against during his campaign for the Republican presidential nomination.

In fact Pompeo, who was then a congressman from Kansas, supported Marco Rubio — and publicly praised him, while disparaging Trump, just before the state’s Republican caucus in March 2016. As Susan Glasser of The New Yorker recalled in an excellent recent profile of Pompeo, he sounded an alarm that Trump would be “an authoritarian president who ignored our Constitution.” He urged Republicans to come to their senses and resist the lure of the surging Trump campaign. “It’s time,” he said, “to turn down the lights on the circus.”

[LeftInTX]

14. Most of them won't face legal repurcusions

And if they do, they aren't severe.

Look at Watergate:

Liddy was sentenced to a 20-year prison term and was ordered to pay $40,000 in fines. He began serving the sentence on January 30, 1973. On April 12, 1977, President Jimmy Carter commuted Liddy's sentence to eight years, "in the interest of equity and fairness based on a comparison of Mr. Liddy's sentence with those of all others convicted in Watergate related prosecutions", leaving the fine in effect.[22] Carter's commutation made Liddy eligible for parole as of July 9, 1977. Liddy was released on September 7, 1977, after serving a total of four and a half years of incarceration.

Who knows where he served his sentence? A cushy Club Fed?

Manafort only got 7.5 years.

Scooter Libby had to serve 0 time.

[Skittles]

15. I don't get it either

it's like they are under some kind of spell.....it is very painful indeed for those of us who were never fooled by Donald Fucking Trump

[smirkymonkey]

16. Thank YOU!

I have been wanting to ask this question for ages. They can't all be compromised, can they? But what is the draw? Sooner or later he is going down and he will take them with him. It is only a matter of time. The best thing they could do would be to arrange a plea deal now and get out before things get any worse.

[RobinA]

20. Trump Is Like

the mechanical bull back in the day. Everybody lines up to try because THEY won’t be thrown off. Everybody gets thrown off, but everybody thinks he (operative word there) won’t.

[Garrett78]

17. 50 years of increasingly cruel and unhinged rhetoric and policy created a monster.

And that monster, the base, made Trump possible. Republicans may wish Trump's methods were different and that he was more competent, but they support the agenda (which is, simply put, bringing about fascism and destroying democratic institutions) and aren't going to risk pissing off the monster.