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malaise

(269,011 posts)
Sun Oct 6, 2019, 07:09 AM Oct 2019

Another mass shooting - four Hispanic males dead

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/4-dead-after-shooting-kansas-city-bar-n1062946
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Four people were killed and five others wounded after a suspect entered a bar in Kansas City, Kansas early Sunday and started shooting, police said.

Nine total people were shot, said Thomas Tomasic of Kansas City police. The suspect is not in custody, he added.

Police were responding to an incident overnight on 10th & Central Avenue.

No further information is available at this time, police said.

This is a developing story, please check back for updates.
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M$NBComcast said the deceased are Hispanic males. Not sure if everyone shot was Hispanic but this looks like a hate crime.
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Another mass shooting - four Hispanic males dead (Original Post) malaise Oct 2019 OP
Suspect is also a Hispanic male Dennis Donovan Oct 2019 #1
That is actually better news if there is any good news here malaise Oct 2019 #2
But the first thing we like to do is jump to the conclusion. Igel Oct 2019 #5
In this current environment it is hard not malaise Oct 2019 #6
Thank you. cwydro Oct 2019 #7
You know what we call that in America? Sunday. Vinca Oct 2019 #3
CNN just said it was in the Hispanic part of Kansas malaise Oct 2019 #4
K&R... spanone Oct 2019 #8

Dennis Donovan

(18,770 posts)
1. Suspect is also a Hispanic male
Sun Oct 6, 2019, 07:22 AM
Oct 2019
https://abcnews.go.com/US/people-dead-shot-downtown-kansas-city-shooting/story?id=66091950

The suspect allegedly entered the bar and began shooting, according to authorities. The shooter has been described as a Hispanic male.


malaise

(269,011 posts)
2. That is actually better news if there is any good news here
Sun Oct 6, 2019, 07:27 AM
Oct 2019

Better it be just another lunatic rather than a hate crime

Igel

(35,317 posts)
5. But the first thing we like to do is jump to the conclusion.
Sun Oct 6, 2019, 10:46 AM
Oct 2019

It confirms what we always knew, so of course it's true. Oddly, the faster and higher we jump, the more panache we seem to have.

It costs nothing but patience and self-discipline to say, "Gee, let's wait for the fact before we assert what the fact must be. Esp. when that fact will be discovered and made clear and not jumping to the conclusion might save me from eating crow."

When it's put in terms of banal self-interest, the principle is much more palatable. It's like when I tell my students to save energy to reduce carbon emissions. I get pushback. "But you pay for the gas and electricity, so it can save you $600 to $1000 a year when you start paying the bills." "Oh, why didn't you say so?"

Still, crow is in season and when served lightly braised in white wine with a nice chervil-garlic sauce and chanterelles is actually quite trendy. Meanwhile, patience and self-discipline are sort of like a low-salt meal of plain baked farm-raised flounder served with non-fat stewed winter wheat berries and steamed Brussels sprouts, all organic and coming in at 800 calories. It may be good for you but it inspires no envy or joy.

malaise

(269,011 posts)
6. In this current environment it is hard not
Sun Oct 6, 2019, 11:09 AM
Oct 2019

to assume the worst. That said yours is a valid response.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
7. Thank you.
Sun Oct 6, 2019, 11:15 AM
Oct 2019

I remember so many of these conclusion-jumping posts. There’s one going on right now with many on board.

I just bookmark them now, always curious to see if the many conclusion-jumpers will come back and correct their misperceptions.

They rarely do.

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