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skip fox

(19,359 posts)
Sun Oct 6, 2019, 06:37 AM Oct 2019

Trump is hiding real Ukrainian transcript. It will have the eight Biden references & quid pro quo.

We only got what the WH wanted us to get (approx. 11 minutes of a 30-min. call) and that was terrible for them. Imagine what is in the full 30 min. call!

The whistle-blower noted its existence. Toward the bottom of page three of the complaint he or she writes:

"In the days following the phone call, I learned from multiple U.S. officials that senior White House officials had intervened to 'lock down' all records of the phone call, especially the official word-for-word transcript of the call that was produced—as is customary—by the White House Situation Room."

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/09/26/us/politics/whistle-blower-complaint.html

Congressman Agnus King also noted its existence:

https://www.newsweek.com/senator-king-suggests-least-20-minutes-are-missing-trump-ukraine-call-transcript-1462622

On Thursday's Morning Joe, Congressman Subramanian Raja Krishnamoorthi (D. Illinois) was making this case clearly even telling how the actual transcription occurred with voice-recognition software and editing.


If we can get this, so many of his defenders' arguments will evaporate.

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Trump is hiding real Ukrainian transcript. It will have the eight Biden references & quid pro quo. (Original Post) skip fox Oct 2019 OP
Great Post ritapria Oct 2019 #1
The current one has quid pro quo DrToast Oct 2019 #2
+1 uponit7771 Oct 2019 #9
yeah, but stopdiggin Oct 2019 #20
Off to the greatest page malaise Oct 2019 #3
I'd love to know what else is in the treasure trove known as the top secret server. Vinca Oct 2019 #4
The second or third hand information thing is bullshit. Anyone that has ever been a supervisor brewens Oct 2019 #5
Hello from Winthrop, Maine. MarianJack Oct 2019 #6
Everyone who was in that room listening on the call must be deposed and charged for their complicity onetexan Oct 2019 #7
Just like we haven't seen the full Mueller Report either. Botany Oct 2019 #8
It's going to be much worse than many believed malaise Oct 2019 #12
I might be wrong but the Mueller Report will show: Botany Oct 2019 #14
Absolutely malaise Oct 2019 #15
And that is why he is sending people like Barr, Pompeo, Giuliani, and others all over the world ... Botany Oct 2019 #18
That makes perfect sense! skip fox Oct 2019 #19
Lets not focus on the Quid Pro Quo hot2na Oct 2019 #10
Yep. DrToast Oct 2019 #13
And China. And Russia. And Australia. It's a pattern, not a joke. Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2019 #16
I'm not saying ti's necessary, but skip fox Oct 2019 #17
Yep! kentuck Oct 2019 #11

stopdiggin

(11,313 posts)
20. yeah, but
Sun Oct 6, 2019, 12:37 PM
Oct 2019

Remember that the Mueller report had "all that is needed" .. and here we are 3-4 months later ... I'll take this smoking gun .. and the next after that, and ...

Vinca

(50,273 posts)
4. I'd love to know what else is in the treasure trove known as the top secret server.
Sun Oct 6, 2019, 07:28 AM
Oct 2019

I read one report that there's a phone call with Putin that is so fawning and subservient they figured they had to hide it.

brewens

(13,588 posts)
5. The second or third hand information thing is bullshit. Anyone that has ever been a supervisor
Sun Oct 6, 2019, 07:49 AM
Oct 2019

knows that. You get complaints about an incident from someone and it's backed up by others. You know it's not a group of people ganging up to get someone so it goes to HR. That's just the way it works.

onetexan

(13,041 posts)
7. Everyone who was in that room listening on the call must be deposed and charged for their complicity
Sun Oct 6, 2019, 07:56 AM
Oct 2019

by keeping silent. If you witness a crime and you say nothing, you are complicit.

Botany

(70,508 posts)
8. Just like we haven't seen the full Mueller Report either.
Sun Oct 6, 2019, 08:06 AM
Oct 2019

Donny talking to the Ukrainian President in trying to get a deal where by a foreign country
would make up dirt on his political opponent is the from same playbook as in 2016 and
according to the Whistleblower's report (bottom pg 4 top pg 5) some of the same people
were involved in both cases too.

This was not Trump's 1st rodeo.

Botany

(70,508 posts)
14. I might be wrong but the Mueller Report will show:
Sun Oct 6, 2019, 09:38 AM
Oct 2019

Russia attacked us
Russia got inside help in the attacks
Russia's attacks stopped Hillary from becoming President and they installed Trump into the White House
Massive crimes by Trump and company
Team Trump worked with and knew all about Russia's attacks on America

Botany

(70,508 posts)
18. And that is why he is sending people like Barr, Pompeo, Giuliani, and others all over the world ...
Sun Oct 6, 2019, 10:52 AM
Oct 2019

.... to find "dirt" on the investigations that led to the Mueller investigation because they can't argue the facts of the case so they
have to argue about the processes from which those facts arose. But at the end of the day multiple intelligence agencies all over
the world have one overarching conclusion and that is Russia fucked with our elections and both the Trump campaign and
many republicans were well aware of what was going on @ the time.


skip fox

(19,359 posts)
19. That makes perfect sense!
Sun Oct 6, 2019, 11:17 AM
Oct 2019

He's investigating the 2016 election and Mueller probe because he KNOWS the damn is about to burst and that's all he'll have to counter with.

hot2na

(358 posts)
10. Lets not focus on the Quid Pro Quo
Sun Oct 6, 2019, 09:04 AM
Oct 2019

If the QPQ is there fine and good let’s rub his nose in it but let’s remember that we don’t need the QPQ. He broke the law just by soliciting UKraines help for his political interests.

The No QPQ has become the new No collusion. Let’s not fall into that trap again. He broke the law without the QPQ.

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,002 posts)
16. And China. And Russia. And Australia. It's a pattern, not a joke.
Sun Oct 6, 2019, 09:42 AM
Oct 2019

Not to forget he tried to subvert elements of the Italian and one of the Five Eyes Intell against the United States' own CIA and FBI.


skip fox

(19,359 posts)
17. I'm not saying ti's necessary, but
Sun Oct 6, 2019, 10:14 AM
Oct 2019

It will erode support by Republicans, esp. senators and their constituents.

And this will be necessary for removal from office.

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